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March 27, 2012 at 9:07 pm #167901
puzzlebs
MemberHello there I just purchased my N150 (yeah in era of tablet I buy netbook so I can actually do some work in it rather than play fruit ninja, however can’t wait for the 7 inches wifi+ 3g tablet from sammy)
I would like to install ubuntu.
The only related thread I came across is this one (http://www.sammymobile.com/forum/threads/15565-Stressed-up-hardware-due-to-dualboot-with-Linux?highlight=ubuntu) that doesn’t have any answer.
my questions:– Is it doable the double boot?
– Is ubuntu working better than win7 (stupid question I know)
– if yes which version of ubuntu you suggest me (I liked 9.6 cause was light and stable but then 10.04 introduced grub 2 which actually gave me problems with my desktop as well even if it was on 2 separate hard disks)
– where I can find tutorial to install on N150 and there is any hardware component that struggle to be recognized (wifi etc etc)Any information will be more than welcome and actually very useful.
Cheers
P.
March 28, 2012 at 1:49 pm #221153sammyone
MemberTo find out if the latest version of Ubuntu will work SUCCESSFULLY with your computer WITHOUT a great deal of hassle…
e.g. try before you (get one free) lol.Try using WUBI – it will install ubuntu into a folder INSIDE Windows, but give you a dual boot menu to choose which to use.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
You can then UNINSTALL through Programs and Features if you don’t like it/ decide to install direct to a partition.
Alternately, build a USB Stick ‘LIVE’ version and try before you install…
There MIGHT still be a problem with Brightness control – I’m using 10.04 LTS currently, which does have the problem.
March 29, 2012 at 10:41 am #221158puzzlebs
MemberThank you very much!!!!!
I will try WUBI and I will get info how to do the usb stick live (on a 32 Gb SD card though) any tutorial suggested for the usb stick live? I checked the dual boot with win 7 and in 2 tutorial they suggest ubuntu 9.10 (http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony and here http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9059/dual-boot-your-pre-installed-windows-7-computer-with-ubuntu/ ) of course is not sure they will solve the brightness issue specific with N150. btw what sort of issue it is? you can’t change it? it is too dim or too bright (i.e. eating battery)?March 29, 2012 at 10:28 pm #22115779DC
MemberHi for a small machine, I would suggest you to install ubuntu 10.10. For brigthness issue and specific function keys look at voria ppa.
On my NF 310, I’ve installed Ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3. It was perfect but slower than gnome 2.March 30, 2012 at 8:53 am #221159puzzlebs
MemberThanks for the tips. I am not that expert in ubuntu so I check voria ppa but i have no idea what I have to do with gz dsc and deb files. Any tutorial? today i should receive the netbook first thing I will change the ram (form 1 to 2) then I will try linux on usb stick and install some programs in win to see how they work. you have any suggestions on best programs to install (for someone that needs for work i.e. writing and spreadsheet)
March 31, 2012 at 8:08 am #221160puzzlebs
MemberDear All,
I write from my new N150 finally!
Yesterday I installed ubuntu 10.10 using wubi. I am not an expert in linux so I wasn’t that sure what I was doing but everything went well. Here is my experience and impressions:I have no problem in double booting both system start well. first time I started ubuntu after the initial dual boot I have been asked to start ubuntu in safe desktop mode or netbook mode or again start windows (on dos like screen) but after once initially selected ubuntu I get directly to the login screen (ubuntu screen) and there on the taskbar at the bottom I can select if to run in desktop mode or netbook mode
I specify that cause personally I find the netbook mode very confusing and hard to get around. it’s hardly customizable and that taskbar on the left never disappear. However after a bit I understood it works a bit like the bar in window7 with pinning and unpinning programs. for more info about 10.10 netbook watch reviews on youtube. Anyway I use the desktop version (selecting it on the ubuntu login screen on the taskbar) and is just like every ubuntu version.
Wifi works fine. the hardware was recognized and he was detecting connections but not my home wifi. so I selected to connect to a hidden connection (is not a hidden connection cause windows sees it perfectly) and so far so good. I am concern in future when i go around if won’t see the main wifi connection and I don’t know the exactly name of it…
I HAVE THE BRIGHTNESS ISSUE AS WELL!!!! Now I understand when you were talking about brightness issue. It is actually nothing that should worry the user but it looks a bit dim and cloudy if you are looking at some image but if you are writing perhaps won’t be a problem and who know maybr can save battery. I was wondering if is a problem of handling screen voltage/current. it is anyway a software bug too cause I can’t control the brightness with FN + up and down arrow. some clarification on that voria app?
I haven’t tried yet the 3g thing but I am very curious. Next time I am travelling I will do.
QUESTION:
what’s the difference between installing UBUNTU on a partition or with WUBI?
WUBI did ask me anyway for the size of the installation (15Gb) like if he will dedicate that space to ubuntu however on windows explorer doesn’t appear to be any partition created. Is there any feature that I am missing to take advantage of? I assume that having a partition would make things safer if ubuntu stops to work (or more likely windows).
OT QUESTION:
I have searched on the forum for clarifications about the SRS (samsung recovery system). It is not clear to me the bottom line:
IF ONE DAY WINDOWS STOPS TO WORK (NOTHING UNUSUAL) HOW DO I BOOT it FROM SOMETHING ELSE EXTERNAL (E.G. USB STICK)?
to do that I should have a recovery disk image but what SRS did was to create a backup on the D: partition which consist on a file that should act as a exe file and a big folder (13gb). Should I copy that file and folder on a usb stick? yesterday I tried to copy them on a 32bg SD but the system didn’t really like my idea and stopped to work.Any suggestion or redirection to relevant forum are more than welcome
P.
April 10, 2012 at 6:43 pm #221152deadkenny
MemberWubi as I understand it just installs Ubuntu in as a virtual image partition within your Windows partition. Ubuntu say it may run a little slower.
The ideal is to run in it’s own partition and with another raw swap partition at least.
Dual booting whichever way you do it, is much easier if you have Windows installed first. Ubuntu will spot Windows and offer either Wubi or will create a separate partition. It will even resize the Windows partition to make space.
“Is ubuntu working better than win7”
Ignoring whether one is better than another, from a functionality and performance point of view, I’d say Win 7 is running better. It’s faster than XP on my NC10, and Samsung now have all the relevant drivers and applications to support all the NC10’s functions, and it works great. Ubuntu and others lack a lot of this and you have to make do with things not working or fiddle a lot with third party tools and drivers. The basics work fine though. I find Ubuntu Unity and later Gnome UI’s are slow too, on any PC.
April 10, 2012 at 7:31 pm #221154sammyone
MemberPuzzlebs, i did a work round for brightness a couple or three posts ago in this forum,
it isn’t purrfect, and you do need to do it each time (or try to judge it at the login screen – the only other place where you can adjust brightness.)
my way (Bragging again???) I can adjust it up and down in varied situations, like while travelling.
About 3G; not all dongles work first time in Ubuntu… typically they are a virtual CD with windows programs on and an usb device
if it does not get recognised in Wireless Manager,Go to Disk Utility;
In the left pane, click on the CD (probably the bottom item)… and in the right pane click on eject… that should free the usb device for recognition as a Mobile Broadband device in Wireless Manager.April 19, 2012 at 9:03 pm #221161puzzlebs
MemberI just noticed that at the moment when controlling the brightness (fn+ up/down arrow) the control bar appears (before it didn’t) but nothing happens. However I just noticed that if before the brightness was always gloomy regardless now seems to be “stuck” on the same brightness was used in windows last time I used. so is not bad after all. ok i won’t be able to change but now I can see more clearly (and consume more battery)
I will try you code soon anywayJuly 18, 2012 at 12:32 am #221162Bonnie
MemberHello … brand new here…
I have a new Samsung N145-Plus netbook running Windows 7 which I like very much. But I also want to run Ubuntu on the D drive, alongside Windows but as a separate boot and NOT accessed through it (which means no Wubi). I have downloaded Ubuntu onto a USB stick and can boot/install it from there (via F9 during the splash screen), but cannot for the life of me work out how to change the boot options in the BIOS to offer me a choice between Drive C and Drive D when I switch on.
Or do I need to? Can I access Ubuntu on Drive D via booting from the stick, but still save stuff to D on the hard drive?
I don’t want to actually install Ubuntu until I’m sure about this. As I say, I want to put it alongside of Windows rather than accessing it via Wubi (which I understand imports some of the Windows security vulnerabilities). I need as isolated and sterile a Linux environment as I can have, which means keeping the two on totally separate drives. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Also, what’s the best AV/Firewall protection for Firefox through Ubuntu? I see that Avast do one (and I like Avast on Windows7) but I haven’t had a chance to investigate it yet. I’m a *total* newbie to Linux, and any help will be much appreciated! With many thanks –
Bonnie
July 18, 2012 at 8:19 am #221155sammyone
MemberOnce you ‘permanently’ Install Ubuntu on the D Drive – it will overwrite the MBR and you are likely to be unable to access Windows and you will definitely LOSE the Recovery function.
You may be able to edit the grub configuration files in Ubuntu to give you access to to Windows dual boot, but you ARE NOT going to get the Restore Facility running again unless you (Go into Windows and) following the tutorials in the NC10 Forum, rebuild/restore the RESTORE FACILITY in which case you’ll probably lose Ubuntu and have to install BCDEdit (Windows Boot Configuration data Editor)
There is a tutorial here… http://www.iceflatline.com/2009/09/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-linux-using-bcdedit/
The first 2/3 is setting everything up… but go down to just below fig 14 for how to use BCDEdit…
Which is why, using WUBI, is Better – YES it prompts you to Install on the C: drive, but if you click the down arrow, next to the C: it will offer you a choice… D; being one of them… You can also CHANGE the size of the Ubuntu ‘Disk’ – wubi offers 1/2 the available space, but moving the slider toward 4Gb (the minimum size) will give you a smaller space (say, 15 to 20Gb)
Here is the Wiki page for WUBI… Everything you need to know
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide/
Including – How to Increase SWAP SPACE in WUBI install – down toward the bottom of the page…
Hope you find this useful.
July 18, 2012 at 12:31 pm #221163Bonnie
MemberSorry, I’ve just accidentally deleted my post!! Here it is again, so people know what it is you’re answering – my apologies:
Hello … brand new here…
I have a new Samsung N145-Plus netbook running
Windows 7 which I like very much. But I also want to run
Ubuntu on the D drive, alongside Windows but as a
separate boot and NOT accessed through it (which means
no Wubi). I have downloaded Ubuntu onto a USB stick and
can boot/install it from there (via F9 during the splash
screen), but cannot for the life of me work out how to
change the boot options in the BIOS to offer me a choice
between Drive C and Drive D when I switch on.
Or do I need to? Can I access Ubuntu on Drive D via
booting from the stick, but still save stuff to D on the hard
drive?I don’t want to actually install Ubuntu until I’m sure about
this. As I say, I want to put it alongside of Windows rather
than accessing it via Wubi (which I understand imports
some of the Windows security vulnerabilities). I need as
isolated and sterile a Linux environment as I can have,
which means keeping the two on totally separate drives.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?Also, what’s the best AV/Firewall protection for Firefox
through Ubuntu? I see that Avast do one (and I like Avast
on Windows7) but I haven’t had a chance to investigate it
yet. I’m a *total* newbie to Linux, and any help will be
much appreciated! With many thanks –Bonnie
July 18, 2012 at 12:37 pm #221164Bonnie
MemberSorry, I accidentally managed to delete my original post to which you’re replying – tried reinstating it here (twice) but it doesn’t seem to appear anywhere. Feel free to delete & move anything of mine you think will clear up the confusion. Many apologies for the cock-up…
July 18, 2012 at 12:40 pm #221165Bonnie
MemberSorry, I managed to delete my post to which you’re replying. Here it is again – many apologies!
Hello … brand new here…
I have a new Samsung N145-Plus netbook running
Windows 7 which I like very much. But I also want to run
Ubuntu on the D drive, alongside Windows but as a
separate boot and NOT accessed through it (which means
no Wubi). I have downloaded Ubuntu onto a USB stick and
can boot/install it from there (via F9 during the splash
screen), but cannot for the life of me work out how to
change the boot options in the BIOS to offer me a choice
between Drive C and Drive D when I switch on.
Or do I need to? Can I access Ubuntu on Drive D via
booting from the stick, but still save stuff to D on the hard
drive?I don’t want to actually install Ubuntu until I’m sure about
this. As I say, I want to put it alongside of Windows rather
than accessing it via Wubi (which I understand imports
some of the Windows security vulnerabilities). I need as
isolated and sterile a Linux environment as I can have,
which means keeping the two on totally separate drives.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?Also, what’s the best AV/Firewall protection for Firefox
through Ubuntu? I see that Avast do one (and I like Avast
on Windows7) but I haven’t had a chance to investigate it
yet. I’m a *total* newbie to Linux, and any help will be
much appreciated! With many thanks –Bonnie
July 27, 2012 at 8:14 am #221156sammyone
MemberAs I say, I want to put it alongside of Windows rather than accessing it via Wubi (which I understand imports some of the Windows security vulnerabilities) This is NOT true…
You cannot ‘install a Linux Distro onto the D drive’… what you do is allocate the ‘D drive’ to Linux, which will totally reformat it to a Linux Partiton, on which it can then be Installed (all part of the Installation process)
While carrying out a Partition Install (as putting it onto the new Linux partition is called)… Linux will take over the Hard drive and over write the MBR – and make it difficult to get back to Windows – except as a secondary function to Linux...
While at it… it will lose the Restore Partitions for your Manufacturers Restore Facility – so it will become VERY difficult to go back to state it was – when Purchased…
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE LINUX… – So, if you are a newcomer to Linux, I would SERIOUSLY suggest that you TRY using WUBI first…
ALTERNATIVELY – a second hand netbook purchased from a High Street Exchange shop, such as Cash Convertors – should only set you back around £130.00 and can be used for experimentation – especially as the general interest level in Linux lasts only a few months, before giving up…
I recently got a Brand new Asus 1011x netbook, for £139.00 it was a Free with a £30 phone contract but the Smartphone did everything the netbook could do and still fit in a pocket – so it’s ‘purchaser’ sold it to the Exchange shop.
ANTIVIRUS…
People will tell you that you do not need A/V in Linux…
Here are SOME reasons why…WINDOWS has Billions of users… limited to 3 or 4 versions – therefore easily targeted.
LINUX has maybe 10 major distributors, (like Red Hat, Debian, Suse, PCLinuxOS etc.,)
EACH of those distributions may have MULTIPLE VERSIONS…
Taking Canonical – from which we are looking at – UBUNTU – there are 17 versions ‘in the wild’
Each of which has been adopted INTO other Distros such as Mint, Puppy, Damn Small Linux, Lbuntu, Kbuntu, Xbuntu the list goes on – this is just the tip of the iceberg..So which one(s) will the bad guys go for? The OBVIOUS one – WINDOWS…
However if you Google this expression, Avast Antivirus in ‘name & version of Linux distro you will use’
You should get an idea of what you can expect to have to do…To give some idea of how easy using linux is for newcomers… may I recommend a visit to this site…
https://getsatisfaction.com/jolicloudIT IS for Jolicloud, (JoliOS v1.2 currently) which has been – I.M.O. – the easiest version of Linux to set up…
There is a picture of the Desktop for JoliOS, here… http://www.jolicloud.com/desktop
the wallpaper CAN be changed from that BORING greenish background !Hope this was helpful.
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