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Win10 Home installation upgrade from Win7 32bit on an NC10 with 2GB RAM
Well today is the big launch day for Win10 so I thought I would dust off the old sammy and give the upgrade a go and post my findings here.First off I had problems getting the Win10 icon in the task bar and the automatic download did not happen so I decided to install the conventional way.
As usual with installing an operating system be prepared for the protracted process to take several hours! With lots of long pauses.
You will need your Win7 Product Key (xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx)which can be found by
The following command in CMD to find the product key associated with your Windows installation:
Windows Key R then cmd
wmic path softwarelicensingservice get OA3xOriginalProductKeyOr run Belarc Adviser free version on your machine if the command doesn’t work (didn’t on my machine for some reason)
Get the Microsoft Download Tool either 32Bit or 64Bit as required
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10Run the tool and choose either Upgrade this PC now or Create installation media for another PC
I chose to create installation media. You get two further choices:
Create a USB stick – just insert it and it will be written directly to the stick as it is downloaded.
Or Create an .isoI used an 8GB stick (after completion just over 5GB was used). Be aware it will overwrite anything on the stick.
The download takes a few hours so I was glad I didn’t choose the Upgrade this PC now option as on a stick the install was more flexible. More of that later.When the download is finished reboot the Sammy and begin the Win10 installation.
Note you may need to set the boot priority of the USB in the biosAfter reboot it would not accept the Product Key although it is correct and has been working fine for 6 years.
Removed USB stick and rebooted.
Ran setup.exe on the root of the USB stickInstallation proceeded with the ubiquitous countdown timer which took a long time but no request for the key was made.
When it rebooted the stick was removed.Upgrading Windows screen with overall percentage timer is then shown with individual percentage timers for:
Copying files%, Installing features and drivers%, Configuring settings%The copying of files takes ages, over an hour at least before it reboots again.
The final setup is nicely presented but those long pauses could do with a progress counter to at least show it hasn’t locked up. However it did come up with this screen towards the end of the process. “It’s taking a bit longer than usual, but it should be ready soon. Don’t turn off your PC” which I found mildly amusing.
Upon start up I was pleasantly surprised as the display seemed ok’ish and volume and display up and down buttons worked as normal.
Further investigation showed the display adapter only gave 640×480 or 800×600 on the Microsoft Basic Display Adapter, not good. Installing the Samsung Intel 945 Win7 driver and rebooting allows 1152×864, 1024×768 and 1024×600 resolutions, so all is well.
Overall early impressions of Win10 are good if a little slow but Win7 wasn’t fast. Win10 Home System Requirements state: 1 GHz or faster processor so the Atom N270 at 1.6 Ghz should cope but perhaps a bit of tweaking is required. I’ve got used to an HP Spectre i7 quad HD laptop so I’m not surprised the sammy feels a bit slow 🙂
Hope this helps and good luck with your install
Tried W10 just using the straight automatic process. Took about 2 hours. W10 worked OK but as reported widely, there seem to be a raft of Privacy issues and settings. Edge seemed rather odd too. I didn’t like the huge waste of space with headers on most functions. The NC10 booted a bit quicker than with W7 but otherwise no noticeable difference. There are lots of background processes you can turn off which might eventually give a little battery duration improvement.
I didn’t really think the improvements better than the drawbacks after a few days. So I used the roll back to W7. That ran quite well and I had W7 again in well under an hour. Initially it seemed all OK, but the process had messed with a few things. Windows Update still kept trying to install W10 updates for a while but seems to have stopped. Not sure how! I had MSE on it and that messed up a bit. Uninstalled and reinstalled twice and now OK. Windows Defender (W7) version may have been implicated too. Seems OK after running update for that while I had no MSE. Ccleaner had been messed with too. Only a complete uninstall and reinstall fixed that, including reselecting some options. Lastly, an IE11 reset to standard and reselect options seems to have stopped numerous crashes. The NC10 hasn’t got much else on it as I don’t use it much. So that might not be everything if you do a rollback after trying W10.
Might try W10 again in a few months. The NC10 saved doing it on a more recent machine.Actually, The rollback still isn’t right so doing a complete W7 re-install. Beware if you try W10. Have your image or install discs ready in case you rollback and it doesn’t work properly afterwards.
Well I had another go with W10 the other day and this time it went much smoother starting from W7, just by deselecting the blocks set in that excellent GWX Control Panel programme then running Windows Update and letting it install W10. I just set up a local account not an MS one.
Turned off pretty well everything that looks like MS spyware/data collection and installed Spybot anti-beacon and used that to stop what it can stop. Turned off the W10 Apps.
Chose some colours that make things look a bit like XP/7. Installed Classic Shell and got a sensible start menu that’s nice and controllable. Changed to the original Samsung desktop background for old time’s sake.
IE11 works well, Firefox a bit slow, Pale Moon not bad. Edge is horrible in several ways and not fast.
Everything else I put on works, including the Win7 games pack that you can get free from Winaero.com.
So now it’s working like W7 but a little quicker. Except shutting down though, that takes about 25 seconds.
Will probably leave W10 on now and see the if the NC10 survives the W10 Anniversary edition!So, the NC10 updated to Win10 anniversary edition 1607. Ran very slow. Edge worse than ever and hangs if you have either of the adblocker extensions installed. Whole thing not really usable. Rolled back to 1511 version and it’s back to being quite good as per previous post.
I wonder whether the 1607 version will be pushed through automatically again…First post in years from me!
Like others, I took the opportunity to give Win 10 go for Free on my old Win 7 NC10. First release seemed good. I did the upgrade and kept my files etc. I did the anniversary update too and all worked okay, but was a little slow still.
Anyway, cut a long story short, I felt that Win 10 was a little slow on the NC10 – not when it starts up per se, more in actual use. I like the idea of a chromebook, as it would revive a perfectly good laptop that’s worthless as a Windows machine so I tried to install CloudReady… and failed. Couldn’t get it to install for some reason, it just hangs and hangs.
Next up I tried Android x86 – which, by the way, runs amazingly well on the NC10! However, again I had problems installing it to the hard drive and managed to muck up my partitions and boot sector, giving me the dreaded “no OS found” in BIOS.
So, rather than waste time fixing stuff, I thought I’d reinstall Win 10 Anniversary update from scratch. I had no files to keep or anything, so I wasn’t bothered about that.
Got the ISO from MS, made a bootable USB stick and wiped the hard drive completely. Interestingly, it looked like the HDD still had the old Samsung recovery software partition on it, and I think that maybe this is what was mucking up my other installs, but I don’t know.
So, Windows 10 Anniversary update installed – I did not enter a product key, you do not need it if your laptop has already used Win 10. Windows online syncs the hardware ID and you get activated online like that. During install, choose “I don’t have a key,” that is, IF you’ve already had Win 10 installed on your hardware like I did. I actually quite like this feature, although am scared that if for whatever reason I decided to upgrade the HDD and needed to reinstall, would the change of HDD cause Windows not to recognise the hardware?
With Win 10 Anniversary update now reinstalled from scratch, everything is running MUCH faster and smoother – like the netbook did when I fresh installed Win 7 all those years ago. Only one driver update was needed for the graphics, which Windows found online automatically. Store updates and Win OS updates all done and everything seems peachy. It is still slow to use, mind you, if you use Edge browser for example and have more than a couple of tabs open, but it does work.
I should add that my NC10 has 2GB Ram, which I would imagine is required for Win 10 to run with any decency.
All in all, I’m pleased and impressed that the latest iteration of Win 10 installs and runs perfectly well on the NC10. Yes, it is slow and I may yet try to turn it into a Chromebook, but I’ve given the little NC10 a new lease of life if nothing else.
I tried Win 10 anniversary edition 1607 on my NC10 again from a couple of days ago. This time the fixes that MS has introduced during August and September seem to have done the trick and the NC10 is running pretty well as good as with the earlier Win 10, which is quite good. Even Edge with Adblockplus is not bad. Nowhere near as good as MS trumpet it, but broadly same speed as ie11 or Firefox.
Running with Classic shell start menu, as much as possible of the spying/monitoring turned off etc.
Definitely worth a try.@t697 133702 wrote:
I tried Win 10 anniversary edition 1607 on my NC10 again from a couple of days ago. This time the fixes that MS has introduced during August and September seem to have done the trick and the NC10 is running pretty well as good as with the earlier Win 10, which is quite good. Even Edge with Adblockplus is not bad. Nowhere near as good as MS trumpet it, but broadly same speed as ie11 or Firefox.
Running with Classic shell start menu, as much as possible of the spying/monitoring turned off etc.
Definitely worth a try.Great to hear – I’ve installed CloudReady on my NC10 and it is now a totally usable – fast – Chromebook-type-laptop-clone-thing. Mine has 2GB ram, but that’s the only mod. CloudReady is great, it actually feels as though the NC10 was made for it, not Windows, which has always been a bit clunky out the box. Only thing is, you cannot dual boot CloudReady, hence my earlier frustrations with it.
However, because Windows 10 is activated online, you can easily reinstall it if you didn’t like CloudReady for whatever reason. Personally I love it and have begun using the NC10 for example to use it in environments where it might be subject to breakage/spoil, e.g. a kitchen – somewhere my Macbook Air never dares venture!
Hi,
I want to share some impression on this argument, too.I have a Samsung NC10 that was running slow on XP (due to poor maintenance and lots of program load) and so i decided to update it a bit. I bought a 2GB RAM and fitted it and a brand new SSD (Crucial CT525MX300SSD1 MX300), then I performed a clean install on the ssd of Win10 (don’t know if Anniversary Update or not, have to check). Everything went well, only thing I had to install (that didn’t installed automatically) was Samsung Easy Display Manager for fn keys.
Now the problem is that it works quite slow, if I look at the resource monitor I notice the CPU working almost all the time close to 100% (between 90 and 98 most of the time). Does it happens also to you?
Most of the time the MS Defender is a lot of resource and otherwise the update is the resposable. This seems to slow down the system a lot but I am not sure that disabling the MS defender (using an alternative Antivirus/malware) and completing the update will solve it. What is your experience on that? Right now it seems almost unusable, and I am starting to wonder if I could be better off with Win7 (performance-wise). What do you think?Hi lucamiz01, has your NC10 settled down? Mine also has 2GB RAM but the original HDD and runs Win 10 Home fairly well for such a low spec device. But I have disabled Cortana, turned off all the options that look like will result in more background process and telemetry. You have to be rigorous doing that. Several guides on the internet. I use Classic Shell Start Menu. You’ll certainly need to let it get through all its Windows updates.
I’m using Kaspersky and haven’t tried the MS Defender.
In Privacy settings scroll down and in Background Apps turn every one of them off.
Spend time going through every option in Settings and turn off everything you don’t really need.
Use Ccleaner to turn off unwanted startups. I only have the Classic Shell Start Menu, Realtek audio and SynapticsTP.
After machine has been on for a while and if no programmes are running, Task Manager settles to showing 1-2% CPU after itself using a lot for several seconds.
Overall certainly no better than when it was XP, but marginally better than when it had Win 7.
From Anniversary Edition, Edge works quite well, with ublock Origin adblocker. AdblockPlus was not very good. I got rid of that. IE11 doesn’t work that well. Firefox is fine.
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