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March 25, 2009 at 1:57 am #161655
Hanzo
Memberhttp://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/notebooks/0,1000000333,39628941,00.htm
In this review, they give NC20 8.5.
March 25, 2009 at 2:23 am #187601Pugrider
MemberAnother excellent review! Interesting that the Via Nano vs. Atom N270 benchmark battle seems to vary greatly by the benchmark software being used. Specifically, I have seen two benchmark reviews that state the Atom is much better than the Nano when the Atom uses it’s multi-threading capability. Here is my question – what software or tasks take advantage of multi-threading?
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March 25, 2009 at 4:58 am #187609WantonWaffle
MemberWe’re sort of in the middle of a learning to write multithreaded code era. Some things do take advantage of it, but a significant amount at the moment. (Games and the latest version of photoshop do). Also the pipelines of both processors are a bit different, and excel in different areas, which is why the benchmarks are not so simple.
March 25, 2009 at 6:02 am #187603summertan
MemberBenchmarks are NOT the same as performance in real life. That’s why benchmarks on different sites contradict each other. In any case, both Atom and Nia processors perform sufficiently well.
You can see if your NC10 is using its hyperthreading by opening Widows Task Manage (CTRL+ALT+DEL) and click “performance” tab. It will show two “CPU usage” windows for the two threads. If they show different graphs, it means the processor is using the hyperthreading.
I tested NC10 with a heavy Mathematica calculation and it WAS hyperthreading, but Mathematica has support for that and many processor cores. I don’t think many programs other programs nowadays do.
March 25, 2009 at 12:44 pm #187608Sadako
MemberWhere hyperthreading can really come in useful on desktop machines is when you are running something really CPU intensive, such as encoding an mp3 or a video or something, and still want to be able to make reasonable use of your system, like a little web browsing.
However, apart from this the atom is a little “dumb” from a design point of view, and in general usage the nano’s “superscalar, out-of-order” design may actually give it the edge.
March 25, 2009 at 12:56 pm #187607Hamfunk
MemberHyperthreading or not you still only have 1 core, and even with multiple cores, one will always have to deligate tasks to the other cores and this is the limiting step. Correct me if i am wrong!!!
March 25, 2009 at 1:39 pm #187604summertan
MemberI notice on the second page of the review they say
“The installed 1GB of RAM is adequate for the preinstalled Windows XP Home. The NC20 even ran a successful test installation of Windows 7 Beta 1, but it quickly became apparent that 1GB for Windows 7 is not enough.”
One members on here said windows 7 is missing some driver for the motherboard chipset. How come they “successfully installed windows 7” then ???
March 25, 2009 at 3:48 pm #187602jrdtunes
MemberMore importantly why the hell would you put Windows 7 on a NC10 or 20? I give the NC20 9.99999 / 10!!
March 25, 2009 at 4:42 pm #187605summertan
MemberI would put Win 7 on NC20 because of it’s embedded remote desktop, better graphics of course, and support of 64 bit. I hear Win XP 64 bit has problems with drivers all over the place – insufficient support from MSoft. Win 7 takes 300MB more ram than Win XP when idle so thats not a big deal if you get better features.
March 25, 2009 at 4:54 pm #187599jez
MemberWin 7 is supposed to run well on netbooks – some even claim better than XP although I have no personal experience. I won’t be trying it outside of a Virtual Machine until it is released.
March 25, 2009 at 11:02 pm #187610WantonWaffle
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I would put Win 7 on NC20 because of it’s embedded remote desktop, better graphics of course, and support of 64 bit. I hear Win XP 64 bit has problems with drivers all over the place – insufficient support from MSoft. Win 7 takes 300MB more ram than Win XP when idle so thats not a big deal if you get better features.
[/quote1238022089]You are right. Windows XP 64-bit is the biggest joke ever. Just waiting to make the jump over vista to windows 7.
March 26, 2009 at 1:32 am #187606summertan
MemberHeres comparison bewteen some Windows flavours like XP (32bit), Vista and Win 7:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3857March 26, 2009 at 9:04 am #187600jez
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You are right. Windows XP 64-bit is the biggest joke ever. [/quote1238058186]I use it at work (our dev machines have a lot of RAM – to handle some rather large database work) and agree that it is a painful experience. Gettting the right drivers is a pain and lots of software just doesn’t run.
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