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February 28, 2009 at 4:48 am #161350
Billy Balthorpe
MemberSo i have set ubuntu up on my sammy and updated it (by connecting it directly into my router). The wireless card works and the sammy has got one wireless network listed but it is not mine.
When I first put ubuntu on, I followed one of the numerous instructions on the web to update the wireless drivers. I did it by saving the relevant files to a usb stick and installing from that. That worked and the wireless card picked up my neighbours wireless network. I thought it was mine at first and out in my password but of course it could not connect.
Since then, it only ever lists that wireless network and never lists mine. As I am a complete ubuntu newbie, I do not know how to get the card to search for other networks etc.
Windows XP worked out of the box and the wireless card through windows picked up a number of netowkrs including mine.
SO I have the problem that wireless is working in XP but not working properly in Ubuntu. I find it odd that under XP it will see my network but under Ubuntu it does not (at the moment).
Any tips for a complete noob? (I followed the instrucitons on the Ubuntu docs site re installing the proper wireless drivers but this did not fix the problem)
March 1, 2009 at 2:34 am #185166prtsmgr
MemberI think the router has to broadcast the SSID, so you may want to check that first in the router setup.
If the SSID is hidden, try changing it and see if it makes any difference.
March 1, 2009 at 11:28 am #185169Billy Balthorpe
MemberThanks – checked and it is set to broadcast. As I said XP has no problems which makes me suspect the installation or what I did to update the wireless has buggered up somewhere.
At the moment I have tried a few things including changing the network manager to no avail. I also tried running the windows driver but that did not work.
Its a bit frustrating because I know nothing about linux and ubuntu so I am a bit in the dark at the moment.
I want to try to reinstall ubuntu but when I use a live usb flashdrive, I cant understand the partition manager diagram very well and it looks to me like it is installing ubuntu again in addition to the previous install, rather than completely over the existing install.
March 1, 2009 at 12:14 pm #185164Alfihar
ParticipantHow did you install the ‘working’ wireless driver?
I think even the backport module from Intrepid is pretty poor performance wise.As for reinstalling, is there an option to remove all linux partitions and use empty space? I can’t remember is Ubuntu has that option.
March 2, 2009 at 1:22 am #185170Billy Balthorpe
MemberThanks Alfihar
I installed the windows driver use the ndiswrapper (name?). It didn’t seem to work though and since I seem to have lost all wireless connections through the network icon. I will reinstall the linux drivers and see if that fixes the problem.
The installation guide is not that clear for a noob like me LOL. There is no option to remove linux installations and install into the empty space. Does Fedora have that?
However, i have been using it a lot (as I said windows works well) and have decided I will be putting a 500gb hdd in it so when I do that and reinstall windows, I will put a clean install of Ubuntu in at that point. It has been frustrating though coz I was keen on trying out ubuntu and find that the lack of wireless (at the moment) really puts a downer on things. I also noticed the GRUB menu has two versions of Ubuntu listed now with the newer kernel being one and the older kernel being the other. I have no idea how that came about 🙂
I suppose it might be worth looking at a better wireless card as well.
March 2, 2009 at 2:28 am #185165Alfihar
Participant[quote1235960086=Billy Balthorpe]I installed the windows driver use the ndiswrapper (name?). It didn’t seem to work though and since I seem to have lost all wireless connections through the network icon. I will reinstall the linux drivers and see if that fixes the problem.[/quote1235960086]
I’ve never had much luck with ndiswrapper myself.
Did you try the instructions on the Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex 8.10 on the Samsung NC10 page?[quote1235960086=Billy Balthorpe]The installation guide is not that clear for a noob like me LOL. There is no option to remove linux installations and install into the empty space. Does Fedora have that?[/quote1235960086]
It is one of the options in Fedora. For Ubuntu what you could do is boot from the Ubuntu live cd/live usb memory stick, then run gParted (probably under Utilities, maybe called Partition Editor) and remove all the linux partitions. You could then run the install and choose to install to the free space. Just be careful when deleting partitions and backup first.[quote1235960086=Billy Balthorpe]I also noticed the GRUB menu has two versions of Ubuntu listed now with the newer kernel being one and the older kernel being the other. I have no idea how that came about :-)[/quote1235960086]
That is normal, imagine you updated your kernel and it broke (problem supporting some hardware etc…) thus stopping your computer from booting. The previous kernel is still available so you can boot with that one instead.A lot of distributions tend to keep the previous two kernels.
[quote1235960086=Billy Balthorpe]I suppose it might be worth looking at a better wireless card as well.[/quote1235960086]
As far as I’m aware the drivers for the stock card are under heavy development at the moment, so things should get better soon. Though the Intel 5300 is a good choice with drivers on Linux (and Windows) that work well.March 2, 2009 at 4:17 am #185171Billy Balthorpe
MemberThanks again,
I might try your suggestion re gparted and see what happens.
Backing up does not matter much at the moment as I really only have software installed, I am using an external 2.5″ hdd with media files etc. Might save all of my settings though in case I have to use the recovery utility.
Interestingly, I used the recovery utility on the weekend to see if it would recover the drives to the opening state (ie clear of linux) but it only reinstallled windows and left everything else.
March 20, 2009 at 2:35 pm #185173stingerblue
Member[quote1237559590=Alfihar]
I’ve never had much luck with ndiswrapper myself.
Did you try the instructions on the Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex 8.10 on the Samsung NC10 page?
[/quote1237559590]Tried that, and didn’t get anywhere, I also installed wifi-radar (apt-get install wifi-radar), but when I start the program, an error message displays (module not found or something).
Thinking of removing Ubuntu >_>.
*Edit: Current installation of Ubuntu = 8.10
March 20, 2009 at 3:55 pm #185167TCMuffin
MemberI have used this install wireless driver guide a number of times and it’s always worked for me and I’m no Linux expert.
March 21, 2009 at 11:57 pm #185172Billy Balthorpe
Member[quote1237679725=TCMuffin]
I have used this install wireless driver guide a number of times and it’s always worked for me and I’m no Linux expert.
[/quote1237679725]I tried that as well but it didn’t work for me. From browsing the net there seems to be a small percentage of us having trouble with wireless on ubuntu (strange that in XP I have no problems whatsoever).
I eventually removed Ubuntu (and that was a saga in itself LOL) because without wireless working it wasn’t an enjoyable learning experience. I am keeping my eye on the next version and a few distros specifically in the pipeline for netbooks. Once they start to appear, I will have another bash at it.
March 22, 2009 at 9:41 am #185168TCMuffin
Member9.04 is very good and is slated to be released on 23 April. Well worth a try and can be downloaded here.
March 24, 2009 at 5:44 pm #185174stingerblue
MemberSame here, also getting some errors I don’t understand, probably from installing wifi-radar.
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