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While waiting for Buy.Com to confirm that they received my returned Sammy and issue a refund I have been checking out other netbook forums to see what they say about their experiences, both positive and negative. After reading them I remain convinced that the Samsung NC10 is the best netbook currently on the market, assuming I can get one without screen blotches! Here are quotes from other user forums about the NC10 relative to their brand. These are all of the negative comments, and don’t reflect the generally positive view that other netbook owners have of the NC10.
Lenovo IdeaPad S10:
“Only thing missing is an ExpressCard slot. It has 3 USB ports.â€
MSI Wind:
“1. This is based on personal preference I think the wind looks better than the NC10. I know that doesn’t mean alot to many people but for me i find the wind astheically more appealing.
2. The wind comes with a 4in1 card reader as oppose to 3in1 with the Samsung. To me being a Sony fanboy I need a memory stick reader. Even though you need an adapter for the Memory Stick Duo I feel its not that big of a hassle as oppose to using a USB card reader or using usb connected connected to the device. Which are Sony PSP, Sony T-500 camera, Sony HDR TG1 which all uses memory stick.
3. The Wind comes with a wireless N card as oppose to the Samsungs only G. To some this isn’t a big issue as most will eventually replace their wifi.
4. The Wind runs OSX fine everything works except for ethernet and mic in. The main purpose for my wind and perhaps many members of the forum was so I can put OS X on it. So far my experiences with 10.5.5 Leopard has been excellent as I am a Mac noob.â€
“the wind is faster than the NC10 and remains the only one out there with a factory blessed overcolock. My own test runs indicate that the overclock is good for a better than 50 percent increase in 3dmark03 score. To me that’s ‘significant’.â€
“The NC10 may be nice, but I chose to get a Wind because of Samsung’s semi-toxic nano-silver material they use in their keys.â€
HP Mini 1000
“HP, although doesn’t have the best quality control in the world, but it does have a decent track record of making decent laptops. Samsung does not. When you buy from HP you are buying from one of the biggest notebook manufacturers in the world. That kind of thing has a price. That is why the mini 1000 is maybe $50 more than the samsung. Its like who are you going to buy a TV from? Sony or Vizio! You get what you pay for. I have many friends who own an Eeee, Dell mini 9, MSI wind and many other netbooks. Quality wise, the HP 1000 trumps them all! The screen is the best by far. Performance wise, the weakest link of the mini is the hard drive. But this baby was made to be upgraded. Sure it will cost more, but I like the idea of putting my own aftermarket parts in it. Kind of like souping up a car.â€
Acer Aspire One:
“Time to sell the AA1…and buy this….â€
Asus EEE
“It’s certainly a nice roomy keyboard, but the trackpad and buttons are too small for me. How can a machine this big have such a tiny trackpad? Also, I think I’m so used to pressing the trackpad buttons on the corner of the unit that the NC10’s bar just feels small and awkward.â€
“Oh, and one thing I really don’t like is that the SD card sticks out of the front of the machine. I leave my SD card in my 901 at all times so the spring-loaded slot is a dream. Having “just a slot” and one from which the card sticks out would be quite an annoyance.â€
“Reasons why I would not buy the Samsung NC10.
1- No linux…..bad!
2- Smallest touchpad in the 10 inches market.
3- dont like the arrow keys below the main keyboard.
3- Samsung uses nano silver coating on the keyboard. This has caused a lot of environmental concerns when used in other Samsung products such as washing machines.
4- Dont like the silver edge and silver hinges.
5- No option to upgrade to SSD in the future, once prices fall down a bit.Samsung does not really come with anything new to the netbook market. Copy the same desing that the MSI and try to sell it under a big name, Samsung. Let’s see how many people out there are going to buy just because says SAMSUNG………marketing brainwashes people.â€
“Here’s another vote for the NC10, it’s just better then any Asus EEE PC, looks like Samsung has sat back watch all the other netbooks, then designed theirs to be better.â€
This one is my favorite:
“Don’t forget one of the advantages Eee pc users have is the fan base with sites such as this one with tonnes of info and help and a community. I can’t seem to find any decent forums for the Samsung NC10 yet, and I don’t think it will have as huge a following as it is so late into the market. Asus has the Eee brand well established and Samsung has a lot of catching up to do. For example I have seen hardly any promo material on the net or tv for the NC10 yet. I remember when the Acer Aspire One and MSI Wind came out there was a lot promotion.â€
I will quickly point out that someone else posted a response that included the link to this forum!
So, there you have it, these are the issues raised by other netbook owners. Given what I have read about the shortcomings of other netbooks (small keyboard, too hot, poor battery performance, noisy fans and hard drives, inability to upgrade RAM, etc.) it makes me miss my Sammy…
Pugrider
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“Don’t forget one of the advantages Eee pc users have is the fan base with sites such as this one with tonnes of info and help and a community. I can’t seem to find any decent forums for the Samsung NC10 yet, and I don’t think it will have as huge a following as it is so late into the market. Asus has the Eee brand well established and Samsung has a lot of catching up to do. For example I have seen hardly any promo material on the net or tv for the NC10 yet. I remember when the Acer Aspire One and MSI Wind came out there was a lot promotion.â€
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I actually wrote that. And how wrong I was! I found this site soon after and it’s the best forum I’ve been a member of. Thanks Jez for starting it up for us and running it you’re the man!
Probably the biggest factor that led me to purchase the NC10 was the best-in-class battery life. As for the one person complaining about the arrow keys, I don’t know what kind of arrow keys they expect a laptop to have (maybe they have a gigantic 17″ HP notebook), but I’ve found that the arrow keys on my NC10 are larger than the ones on my MacBook Pro!
Great post, interesting to read. I am also very interested to see how things will change as new netbooks are released this year. Will it end up like the general laptop market where no one really “falls for” a particular model – you just go and buy something that seems good at the time!
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I actually wrote that. And how wrong I was! I found this site soon after and it’s the best forum I’ve been a member of. Thanks Jez for starting it up for us and running it you’re the man!
[/quote1231073594]Thanks :)!
I looked at other forums to get a sense of what the owners of other brands were reporting after the honeymoon period was over, paying particular attention to problems that were design flaws (e.g., small keyboard with misplaced keys (most netbooks), soldered RAM memory on the Lenovo, proprietary drive and VGA dongle on the HP Mini 1000), as well as things that could be fixed at a cost (small battery, crappy HD or SSD). Finally, I looked at my personal pet peeves, including glossy screens and covers. Lenovo almost lured me away, as their black version has a matte case and screen. However, I have read that the 6 cell version has a glossy screen, and when I tried one at a store I didn’t like the keyboard.
Having found fatal flaws in all of the other netbooks, I thought I would take a look to see what others said about the NC10. As I hope I made clear in my original post, mdongle on the HP Mini 1000), as well as things that could be fixed at a cost (small battery, crappy HD or SSD). Finally, I looked at my personal pet peeves, including glossy screens and covers. Lenovo almost lured me away, as their black version has a matte case and screen. However, I have read that the 6 cell version has a glossy screen, and when I tried one at a store I didn’t like ost were very positive about the NC10, noting that Samsung had addressed most of the shortcomings of other netbooks within the limits set my Intel and Microsoft. That being said, if Samsung doesn’t get their product into some brick and mortar stores in the US soon it won’t make any difference. The HP Mini 1000 is now on sale in all the big box stores (I almost bought one from Costco when it first came out), and Lenovos are now on sale at Circuit City. Radio Shack is now selling NC10s on their web site, but I haven’t seen them in their stores. We will see what 2009 brings…
Pugrider
It kills me when people buy based on ‘track record’. Just because MSI and HP have that doesn’t mean Samsung can’t beat them. After all, whos got the best 6-cell on the market? No it’s not the ones with the ‘track record’. And a good battery is THE most essential feature of a netbook.
Another thing that kills me is trying speed benchmarks on netbook. Like they are going to perform significantly different with exactly the same Atom processor and like the owner of the netbook is goint to try to calculate the USA defense strategy on it LOL This is not a supercomputer for which speed matters and most users won’t use it for anything more than internet, word processing and photoshop …
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It kills me when people buy based on ‘track record’. Just because MSI and HP have that doesn’t mean Samsung can’t beat them. After all, whos got the best 6-cell on the market? No it’s not the ones with the ‘track record’. And a good battery is THE most essential feature of a netbook.
[/quote1231104073]I believe there has been a global battery shortage (or cost saving) in recent times which is why the MSI Wind etc have shipped with 3 cell batteries instead of 6. Even new netbooks like the Toshiba, Fujitsu and Lenevo are shipping with (in my opinion) rubbish batteries. Samsung really has come up trumps on that battery especially at it’s price point. I definately would have thought twice about the Samsung if it wasn’t for the 6 cell included as standard Go NC10!
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Asus EEEThis one is my favorite:
“Don’t forget one of the advantages Eee pc users have is the fan base with sites such as this one with tonnes of info and help and a community. I can’t seem to find any decent forums for the Samsung NC10 yet, and I don’t think it will have as huge a following as it is so late into the market. Asus has the Eee brand well established and Samsung has a lot of catching up to do. For example I have seen hardly any promo material on the net or tv for the NC10 yet. I remember when the Acer Aspire One and MSI Wind came out there was a lot promotion.â€
I will quickly point out that someone else posted a response that included the link to this forum!
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*raises hand*
It was me.
Fame at last.
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It kills me when people buy based on ‘track record’. Just because MSI and HP have that doesn’t mean Samsung can’t beat them. After all, whos got the best 6-cell on the market? No it’s not the ones with the ‘track record’. And a good battery is THE most essential feature of a netbook.Another thing that kills me is trying speed benchmarks on netbook. Like they are going to perform significantly different with exactly the same Atom processor and like the owner of the netbook is goint to try to calculate the USA defense strategy on it LOL This is not a supercomputer for which speed matters and most users won’t use it for anything more than internet, word processing and photoshop …
[/quote1231111373]Well as for the track record, Samsung makes many consumer electronics such as TVs and cell phones, which are generally viewed as very good.
Pulling the “track record” card sounds like a very desperate attempt to justify a (likely regretted) HP purchase to me 😉
Could be wrong though :/
Interesting pose, although there’s never what “other forum says about” nc10. Other forums consist of many people with many different opinions… Some may want to defend their favorite and some may truly prefer their favorite over nc10. I’ve tried a different model and am pretty happy with nc10… The only regret that I may have is that when 11″ netbooks arrive, I might feel that 11″ is better balanced size for my needs. (and my gf won’t like it if I say I want to switch my notebook again… sigh)
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