December 22, 2008 at 3:33 pm #168962
Jay, I would not install Vista straight away.
I have a quadcore PC with a 9600gt nvidia and 8gigs of ram, and to be honest, Vista is never as stable online as XP was.
Also like it or not the NC10 is built around XP Service Pack 3. Which is the most common and one of the best OS available IMHO.
Do what you want but you should see how happy you are with XP first. Don’t forget installing more ram and the Vista cripples your warrenty.
I would seriously take my advice on this and wait and see how you like XP and what the machine is designed for. 😉
I’m not sure where you’re getting your information, and granted, the first sentence is all your opinion. I’ve been running Vista since RC2 and it has come a long way. I feel no difference in speed between Vista or XP. Also, why would you have 8GB of RAM? Are you running a 64-bit operating system? Because that’s a waste of 4-6GBs and money. I also don’t understand why you’d say that Vista cripples the warranty – if you need warranty work, you open the slot and exchange the RAM and format back to the old OS. It’s honestly not that hard, and not as bad as you make it sound.
So Jay, I would seriously recommend that you choose the OS that you’d prefer to run. I preferred Vista and I’m not have ANY problems.December 22, 2008 at 4:36 pm #168991AlfiharParticipant
I also found Vista to run badly on my desktop (32bit or 64bit), whereas it runs very well on my NC10. I’m not one to care for warranty’s, though I can’t see how installing Vista would void it.
[quote1229963152=dougp]Also, why would you have 8GB of RAM? Are you running a 64-bit operating system? Because that’s a waste of 4-6GBs and money.[/quote1229963152]
I agree with most of what you say, though there are reasons to have 8GB of RAM, my desktop has more than 8GB RAM which I use, and runs a 64bit OS.December 22, 2008 at 6:12 pm #169013jrdtunesMember
I am not one of these people who sticks by one particular OS. I just want the best product, I am not biased to one over the other. It is just Vista does have compatibility issues; if you have honestly never found any with software or hardware you are a lucky, lucky individal. A netbook is a small portable device, you want it to be as friendly with other networks and configurations as possible. I believe XP would do this.
To stick Vista on the NC10 just because, and pay Â£70 for the privilege without any specific need just seems silly, to me. I am allowed to say this, and I just wouldn’t be suprised to see the guy installing it, then getting stressed when aspects of the netbook are changed and made harder to deal with.
Typed that in a rush hope it makes sense. I wasn’t being hostile just don’t want people going through the stress that can be Vista compatibility. I thank you! The machine is designed around XP. Not Vista. I’m sure Vista works well as you said, but it still stands.
“If it ain’t broke”… 🙂December 22, 2008 at 8:21 pm #169007hufnMember
Well, just to point out note a few things… As to the ram, 95%+ of the people using computers would never use more than 2-4GB ram, and Vista runs perfectly fine with 2gb. I understand you may well have problems with vista, but every single OS, particularly those that begin with Microsoft, ALL have problems somewhere. I’ve had computers with tons of problems over decades, running various versions of windows. If you want stable on this laptop, get 2000 pro. If you actually could get drivers, it’d be significantly faster, and would be much more stable. Perhaps the OP just wants vista for it’s new features and look, there’s nothing wrong with that. Saying that he should keep XP because it is more stable, particularly since Vista SP1 is out, is really not a big reason as you might think. As to the warranty, you can do anything you want with OS or Ram and it will not affect the warranty one bit. Almost no computer companies do that.
As to the machine being designed around XP, I have to say I disagree. I can guarantee you it would cost more for them to include vista, as well as the fact that they would have to include another gb of ram. This would push it a fair bit and they are trying to keep this machine in the sub $500 range. That is why it comes with XP. If it was ‘designed’ for XP then pro would be an option, which it isn’t. It’s purely cost. There are already atom machines for sale with Vista – they work fine. Also, all of the samsung software (Bat mgr, net mgr, etc…) are all available in Vista versions, as their other laptops come with vista.
I don’t disagree that the OP should not install vista without a good reason, it won’t do a whole lot more, and it’ll cost more, but if they run it it’ll be just as stable as xp.December 22, 2008 at 8:29 pm #169004PanManMember
Seems as good a place as any to chuck this in.
Just finished checking my parents laptop for them, my mum uses it mainly as a glorified word processor and they have no interest in going online (if they need to send an email they’re probably one of the few people still using an Amstrad Emailer).
Anyays its an old IBM Thinkpad 600, P2 300, 64mb Ram, 5Gb HDD running a clean install of Win98SE with Office 95 and if I’m brutally honest it loads and processes word docs and runs My Computer just as fast as Sammy does.
Wouldn’t like too do much else on it or too much at once though ;o)December 22, 2008 at 10:03 pm #169014jrdtunesMember
To be honest I agree PanMan. I was perfectly happy with my 1.4ghz athlon, 512mb ram, geforce 2 mx Mesh machine until it died after about 6/7 years of great use and maintenance. Infact I had less problems with it than a quadcore with a geforce 9600gt.. networking mainly.. but oh, the irony! I’d only ever buy a proper piece of hardware in a store now, online is too complicated if a problem arises.March 1, 2009 at 8:24 pm #169017infiniteengineMember
I’ve listened to all the arguments, and always kindof took the majority’s word for it that Vista is always slower than XP, but running my own tests I’ve found Vista to operate just as well as XP on my NC10.
Frankly, I was willing to take a 5-10% performance hit when I switched to Vista Black Edition 2009 on my NC10, because I just prefer the UI and some other minor tweaks, but my Geekbench score using Vista WITH Aero is still around 850; that’s actually slightly higher than my XP score.
One thing I have to ask of people running Vista is how exactly you went about installing the Intel Graphics driver. I went to the link in this thread, and tried installing the 945 chipset driver but my Graphics scores stayed at 1.0. I then tried uninstalling my Display Adapters and reinstalling the intel driver, but still no luck. Would appreciate any input, thanks!March 1, 2009 at 8:31 pm #169015emeowwwMember
“Vista Black Edition” is not a legal Windows OS. Please note we are only allowed to discuss legitimate OS’s only.March 2, 2009 at 1:37 am #169016asitmcMember
“Vista Black Edition” is not a legal Windows OS. Please note we are only allowed to discuss legitimate OS’s only.
he didn’t actually discuss it. He just mentioned it and the fact that it is illegal seems pretty irrelevant to what he’s asking.March 2, 2009 at 12:54 pm #168938jezMember
Never heard of it until now. But reading around it sounds pretty dodgy. emeowww is correct that this site does not condone the use of non official software. But I don’t think the post above is worth moderating.
If anyone has any questions drop me a PM, else back on topic please 🙂March 22, 2009 at 10:04 am #169018
Hi everyone ! I have just bought my NC10 and I am going to install Vista on it… But I have two questions :
Which ver. of Intel Chipset should I download ? On Intel website http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-020683.htm there are many versions like 945G , 945C , 945PL etc. ??? What’s the differance ?
and the second question, I have HSPA modem built in , does anyone had any problems on vista with drivers to it ???
Somewhere in this thread I also read that there are problems with BT on Vista&NC10 ?? What exactly ? No drivers or what ??
Thankx for replyMarch 23, 2009 at 4:05 am #168963
You download the drivers from here.
As for the 3G modem, I have no idea – we don’t have that option in the US.
And there’s no issue with bluetooth, other than the default drivers installed with Vista neuter it. You’ll want to download the drivers from the compilation thread.March 23, 2009 at 9:50 pm #169019
What about Two-Finger-Scroll ?? Is it working ?? Which driver should I install ?? I found this one : http://code.google.com/p/two-finger-scroll/ , but I do not know whether this support Vista x86March 24, 2009 at 3:18 pm #168964
What about Two-Finger-Scroll ?? Is it working ?? Which driver should I install ?? I found this one : http://code.google.com/p/two-finger-scroll/ , but I do not know whether this support Vista x86
It does work, and has been discussed at length here in the forums. If you do a search, you’ll also find the driver you need for the touchpad.March 24, 2009 at 6:06 pm #169020
What does Easy SpeedUp Manager ?? Is it worth installing on Vista ??:/
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