November 14, 2008 at 10:37 pm #159369
Ok,this is a little pre-emptive as I’ve not actually got my netbook yet or obviously installed Vista onto it… HOWEVER!!!! All is not lost as I’ve been able to use one in a shop that belonged to one of the shop workers and they’d installed Vista onto it.
A couple of things they mentioned;
1. Install 2GB Ram first, Vista definitely wants it.
2. A neat trick, install Vista graphics drivers from Intel’s site (so don’t use default graphics drivers in Vista or the Samsung XP ones) and you’ll get a far superior performance from the netbook. The user index rating thingy goes from 1.0 to 2.8 AND Aero compatible (plus the netbook was still fast and not running slowly AT ALL with Aero enabled).
3. He did mention a few Samsung drivers needed to be installed, I think specifically the WAN and LAN.
4. There were a couple of issues with the trackpad – he didn’t get into detail but said that if you uninstall the samsung drivers you’ll get the FULL use of the trackpad WITHOUT the scroll function – some might find this better?
5. He did say (and I take his word for it but cannot be sure) that battery life was in fact slightly BETTER than it is with XP.
I hope that’s useful to someone – I’m going to see if I can befriend this chap in the shop to teach me how to do the install for Vista etc and hopefully from there I’ll be able to make a “how to” 🙂November 15, 2008 at 1:12 pm #168931
sounds good jonbad, it would be great if you blaze the Vista trail lol! I think a lot of people will be thinking “why would you want to do that?” but without giving it a go I guess no one can say for sure what the pros and cons are!
Vista is supposed to have better power management so it seems possible battery power could be better! I have found that it is pretty good at switching the screen brightness down if you aren’t using it and hibernating after a longer period. Not having owned a laptop before power management is new to me and is somewhere down my reading list!November 15, 2008 at 5:55 pm #168939
I think that for all Vista’s slating, for the general user it is better looking, better for browsing pictures and better for watching films plus better for plugging in external devices and already having the drivers etc (which I prefer personally to installing manufacturers bloated driver packs… erhmmm… HEWLETT PACKARD!!). Anyway, personally as a general browse the net and check your emails, look at photos and watch a movie – I prefer Vista to XP.
But I am looking forward to seeing if MAC OSX works on the samsung with EVERYTHING working 🙂November 16, 2008 at 12:39 am #168949
I’ve been running Vista Ultimate on my NC10 for about a week now. It runs very well – I’ve not had a problem with it at all.
As suggested, I installed vista graphics drivers from the intel website and saw a big improvement in performance. My Windows Experience Index gaming graphics score went from 1.0 to 2.7 🙂
I also installed trackpad drivers from the synaptics website and it works very well. It allows you to change just about every option possible, so you can have the scroll bar on or off, or change how much of the trackpad is given over to scrolling. I’ve also made the trackpad more rather sensitive, which I like – it avoids any problems with the trackpad being too small. The one thing I haven’t figured out yet is how to get multi-touch to work.November 16, 2008 at 9:30 am #168932
yeah its worth pointing out to XP users that you can configure the trackpad through control panel too. Im still working out what I want from it so its hard to know the best configuration!
Chirimolla, how did the installation go? Did you do it through an optical drive?November 16, 2008 at 12:04 pm #168940
Can we get some links to the correct driver downloads? I’m unsure which version of Vista I’ll be able to install yet so I can’t really recommend any.
Chirimolla, if you don’t mind that’d be great if you could say more about how you installed Vista as well as the correct driver link (for vista ultimate) for both graphics and trackpad. Glad to know the PCW guy’s info was correct and it helped someone 🙂November 16, 2008 at 7:22 pm #168952
Been running vlited vista for a week now and works a dream as others have mentioned grab the drivers from intels site and the graphics speed along nicely with aero running impressively. Media centre and powerdvd 8 run really well and smooth with no dropouts.
Finding the atheros drivers can be a pain but there is an obscure site which has the vista drivers you just gotta search had.
Atheros drivers for vista can be found here (apologise in advance if links are not permittedNovember 17, 2008 at 1:01 am #168950
Vista install was easy. All it took was a Computer Scientist housemate and a USB stick. I’d imagine the vista install process isn’t too radically different to on other netbooks, and there are plenty of guides for doing so online as it is. Like this one:
My housemate followed basically the same procedure but without vlite.
A surprisingly easy place to find all the Vista drivers is the support page for the Gigabyte M912 tablet PC. It’s got the same processor, chipset, touchpad and wireless card as the NC10 (and most of the other netbooks on the market) but has an option for pre-installed Vista, which means that pretty much all the latest vista drivers your NC10 could need are on its support page. I was tipped off to this by my aforementioned housemate, who owns an M912 and is dead jealous of my NC10’s keyboard and battery.November 17, 2008 at 10:47 am #168933
that’s interesting – I was tempted by the gigabyte M912 – I take it you are happy that the NC10 was the better choice!
Thanks for the Vista update info. I saw your post over at OCUK too! I’m gonna look through that thread and try and pick up any good bits from it.
apologise in advance if links are not permitted
I’m pretty chilled about that kinda stuff – afterall the plan is for a community site where everyone can contribue! I’ll prob only break out the moderation tools if things get spammy or flame grilled ;)!November 18, 2008 at 10:21 pm #168951
I’ve now got the Synaptics trackpad to work properly, with gestures like pinch-to-zoom.
Uninstall whatever trackpad drivers you have and install the vista trackpad drivers that Samsung provides for its other laptops that run Vista and also use synaptics:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDown.do?group=computersperipherals&type=mobilecomputing&subtype=notebook&model_nm=NP-X360&language=&cate_type=all&dType=D&mType=DR&vType=R&prd_ia_cd=05012600&disp_nm=X360-34PNovember 19, 2008 at 8:10 pm #168941
Took delivery of my NC10 today as mentioned in other posts (cos it’s worth repeating lol).
One thing that I noticed almost immediately is that one of the booklets that accompanies the laptop in the box is about restoring windows installations. The interesting thing is that it covers both XP AND Vista. I suppose this is an implication that sooner or later the NC10 will be shipped with Vista as standard?
Perhaps then Samsung will release drivers for Vista in the immediate future (let’s hope).November 20, 2008 at 11:43 am #168934
I think there is definitely an expectation of follow up 3G and Vista versions in the pipeline. I would imagine they well push out all these first ones for Christmas and then capitalise on their success by keeping momentum with further releases.
With respect to the manual, I guessed those printed ones were actuallty generic laptop ones?November 20, 2008 at 11:46 am #168942
With respect to the manual, I guessed those printed ones were actuallty generic laptop ones?
That’s a thought – perhaps you’re right, that hadn’t occurred to me lol
… expectation of follow up 3G and Vista versions in the pipeline…
Yeah I’d agree with that, I wouldn’t want to comment on when they’ll release such things, as theroretically they could release them all at the same time just at different prices like other manufacturers have done.November 20, 2008 at 12:05 pm #168945
In saying that though, come January, I won’t be impressed if they release a version with Vista and internal 3G for the same, or slightly higher, price; that is, if the NC10 isnâ€™t crippled and the 3G internal modem can be added at a later date.November 20, 2008 at 12:21 pm #168935
In saying that though, come January, I won’t be impressed if they release a version with Vista and internal 3G for the same, or slightly higher, price; that is, if the NC10 isnâ€™t crippled and the 3G internal modem can be added at a later date.
You and me both. But I guess that’s the price of being an early adopted, but still those moves by manufacturers can leave a bad taste. Reminds me of the iPhone where some of my friends are locked into expense longterm deal with the early models and much better ones game along very very quickly!
In the short term I am happy that the NC10 does evrything I wanted but the one wishlist item is 3G. I suppose one advantage of the dongle is that when my home broadband connection goes down I guess the dongle can be slipped into my desktop machine?
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