January 8, 2009 at 8:49 pm #160504
Maybe 3 times a charm as this is the 3rd forum I have signed up to and posed the following questions. I’m thinking this is the right place. Go Sammy!
Have some pre-purchase questions about the NC10 and any help would be greatly appreciated.
Looking to use this as a carputer and the fact the power button is on the outside I’m hoping is a big plus. Would connect an external 7inch touch screen to it so having the power button on the outside and Not having to open the lid on the NC10 to power on and turn on the external display would work out great.
1. Will the NC10 power on with an external monitor attached to it with the lid closed and will the external display come on without having to open the lid?
2. With a usb keyboard and/or mouse, can these devices wake the NC10 from standby?
3. If it can be woken up with external keyboard and/or mouse, will it wake the NC10 while the lid is closed, connected to external display and will the ext. display come on?
Any help with any of the questions would be greatly appreciated.
Now that the Black is available in the US, I’m really looking foward to seeing if this will work.
ThanksJanuary 8, 2009 at 11:21 pm #179088
OK, I don’t want to be greedy and I know I just posted this today, but how about this…
Can someone simply turn there nc10 off, close lid, wait about 15 seconds for the drive to spin down and then without opening the lid, press the power button to see if it powers on and boots???
No external display, keyboard or mouse, just YOUR NC10 and your help is needed …ThanksJanuary 9, 2009 at 12:02 am #179082AlfiharParticipant
It does not switch on when the lid is closed.
I guess it’s a precaution against accidentally switching it on if it gets knocked while in a bag.
Additionally it will not wake from sleep with the lid closed.
1. It seems the answer is no.
2. My USB mouse doesn’t (additionally neither does my Bluetooth one).January 9, 2009 at 12:23 am #179081adatay92Member
From my quick tests:
1. No and erm
Sorry!January 9, 2009 at 12:58 am #179089
Thank you both for testing this out. Was hoping for a different outcome, but Alfihar makes a good point, it makes sense that to prevent accidental power up, the lid would have to opened first. I guess with a little modding, one could bypass the lid switch to fool the nc10 into thinking the lid is opened when its not.
I’m still very much interested in the nc10, it has some of the best reviews and has exceeded many peoples expectations of a netbook.
Thanks again for the help.January 9, 2009 at 1:57 am #179086avserviceMember
I have been playing around with this for you too.
I can get the lid close to leave the machine on with no problem but I can not tell yet if there is any other way to turn it on except the lid open/power switch combo.
I may try it later with my Lilliput Touchscreen Car monitor to see if the touchscreen enables power on or not.
I am a little surprised that the lid being opened itself does not wake the machine from standby at all?
EdJanuary 9, 2009 at 10:40 am #179079jezMember
I too always assumed that it was a “safety” feature to prevent accidental powering up. I know there are some controls with regards to what happens when you close the lid – but not sure if “do nothing” is one of them. I guess it would be nice to have full flexibility and set it up how you want but I am not aware if that is possible.
Did you try Samsung support? If so, what did they say? If not, it’s worth a go they seem to respond to most people’s queries.January 9, 2009 at 2:00 pm #179085PessimissedMember
I know there are some controls with regards to what happens when you close the lid – but not sure if “do nothing” is one of them.[/quote1231509527]
“Do nothing” is indeed one of them, the actions can be set in windows XP control panel under Power Management or something similar. (classic view).January 9, 2009 at 2:03 pm #179087avserviceMember
Like I noted above,it is simple to get the machine to stay on while closing the lid.
The issue would be turning it back on without opening the kid.
Most machines allow another way to wake up from standby in addition to the power switch but this NC 10 appears to only wake up through the switch?
In fact not simply lifting the lid turns it on from standby either.January 9, 2009 at 2:26 pm #179083AlfiharParticipant
Out of interest why do you want to buy a netbook for use as a carputer?
Wouldn’t it be better to build yourself a carputer using a Mini-ITX (or even Nano-ITX or Pico-ITX) system, it may well be cheaper as well.January 9, 2009 at 2:32 pm #179080jezMember
In fact not simply lifting the lid turns it on from standby either.
Which is something that annoys me!January 10, 2009 at 4:54 pm #179084littleguyMember
Road Warrior – Here are a few clarifications:
Going into standby can be caused by the lid closing or battery management. Both can be disabled so that the computer never goes into standby or hibernate. To summarize what others have said, go to Start->Run and type “powercfg.cpl” to bring up the power options.
a. Power Schemes tab – select “Never” for standby and hibernate. Consider saving the scheme for convenience.
b. Alarms tab->Alarm Action buttons – make sure action is not hibernate or standby.
c. Advanced tab – choose “Do nothing” for the first dropdown. I also like to use “ask me…” for the others.
d. Hibernate tab – you could uncheck “Enable hibernation” although at this point it might be redundant.
Now you never have to worry about going into standby… so you never have to worry about how to wake it up.
I should note that my XP pro desktop allows usb devices to wake from standby, but my NC10 (XP home?) does not. On my desktop, start->run and type devmgmt.msc, find mouse or keyboard, go to Power Management tab, check the box “Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby.” Perhaps an XP pro feature, for those interested in using mice/keyboard to wake from standby. It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a registry hack or something to enable this feature on XP home, but I haven’t looked into it.
2. POWER ON
As others have said, I see no way at the moment to power on with the lid closed, even with an external monitor attached. I even checked the BIOS (latest revision, 04, had no options for this). However, the lid only needs to be popped open 3/4 inch (I measured), and can be closed immediately after you hit the power on button. If you were connected to an external monitor the last time you powered down, you will be reconnected at bootup and the login screen will be shown on the external monitor (rather than laptop). My bluetooth mouse works fine from the login screen; I imagine a BT keyboard would as well. Certainly usb mouse/keyboard work at the login screen as well.
As you suggested, I’m sure an enterprising person could hack the mechanical switch that tells when the lid is open… allowing you to boot up with the lid closed.
Hope this helps. I know how frustrating it can be to have such detailed questions answered. Good luck!
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