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December 1, 2008 at 5:05 pm #172802FreddyMember
I would very much appreciate this too. How can you boot into Windows (XP) in less than 30s from cold boot? I can get under 40s timing from when I press the powerbutton until I get into Windows and WiFi working, but I cannot get under 30s. How do you do it?
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I understand it can be hard to go through every single thing done to your new NC10 to make it run extra fast, to get that extra oopmh form your system and to get your boot time down, but can the users who have their boot time in and around 30 seconds, please advise as to the main things they did in order to get their boot times so low?
[/quote1228150952]December 1, 2008 at 5:07 pm #172792RsaeireMember[quote1228151190=Freddy]
I would very much appreciate this too. How can you boot into Windows (XP) in less than 30s from cold boot? I can get under 40s timing from when I press the powerbutton until I get into Windows and WiFi working, but I cannot get under 30s. How do you do it?
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Okay Freddy, since you can get below 40 seconds, and I can only get 90 seconds, can you start by sharing what you have done please?December 1, 2008 at 5:38 pm #172803FreddyMemberI sure can 🙂 Prepare youself for a long list 🙂
What I have done is:
1. No programs whatsoever in the Startup-folder.
2. Run msconfig and change “Timeout” from 30s to 3s in the Boot.ini-tab.
3. Go to Startup tab (in msconfig) and only check (set) the following:
BatteryManager
PreMKBD
SynTPEnh
DMLoader
(keep programs you know you want to run, in my case I let RocketDock run and also ctfmon (MS Office component)
Uncheck everything else unless you are sure you really need it.4. Go to Services tab, “only” allow the following to run:
Application Layer Gateway Service
Cryptographic Services
DCOM Server Process Launcher
DHCP Client
DNS Client
Event Log
IPSEC Services
Network Connections
Network Location awareness (NLA)
Plug and Play
Remote Acess Connection Manager
Remove Procedure Call (RPC)
Security Accounts Manager
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Telephony
Terminal Services
Themes
Windows Audio
Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
Windows Manageement Instrumentaion
Wireless Zero Configuration
Workstation4. Delete all files in the c:windowsprefetch folder. (make a copy first of the whole folder if you want to). Run regedit and change the following value:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlSession ManagerMemory ManagementPrefetchParameters
You will see something called: EnablePrefetcher
Change the value to 2
(The prefetch only caches boot system files with this value)5. Regedit continued:
Go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Expand SYSTEM>Expand CurrentControlSet>Expand Control>select content index>FInd start up delay
Change decimal value to 400006. Run defrag
What are you getting after this, I hope less than 90s!
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[quote1228151190=Freddy]
I would very much appreciate this too. How can you boot into Windows (XP) in less than 30s from cold boot? I can get under 40s timing from when I press the powerbutton until I get into Windows and WiFi working, but I cannot get under 30s. How do you do it?
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Okay Freddy, since you can get below 40 seconds, and I can only get 90 seconds, can you start by sharing what you have done please?
[/quote1228151931]December 10, 2008 at 11:42 am #172793RsaeireMember[quote1228909065=Freddy]
I sure can 🙂 Prepare youself for a long list 🙂What I have done is:
1. No programs whatsoever in the Startup-folder.
2. Run msconfig and change “Timeout” from 30s to 3s in the Boot.ini-tab.
3. Go to Startup tab (in msconfig) and only check (set) the following:
BatteryManager
PreMKBD
SynTPEnh
DMLoader
(keep programs you know you want to run, in my case I let RocketDock run and also ctfmon (MS Office component)
Uncheck everything else unless you are sure you really need it.4. Go to Services tab, “only” allow the following to run:
Application Layer Gateway Service
Cryptographic Services
DCOM Server Process Launcher
DHCP Client
DNS Client
Event Log
IPSEC Services
Network Connections
Network Location awareness (NLA)
Plug and Play
Remote Acess Connection Manager
Remove Procedure Call (RPC)
Security Accounts Manager
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Telephony
Terminal Services
Themes
Windows Audio
Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
Windows Manageement Instrumentaion
Wireless Zero Configuration
Workstation4. Delete all files in the c:windowsprefetch folder. (make a copy first of the whole folder if you want to). Run regedit and change the following value:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlSession ManagerMemory ManagementPrefetchParameters
You will see something called: EnablePrefetcher
Change the value to 2
(The prefetch only caches boot system files with this value)5. Regedit continued:
Go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Expand SYSTEM>Expand CurrentControlSet>Expand Control>select content index>FInd start up delay
Change decimal value to 400006. Run defrag
What are you getting after this, I hope less than 90s!
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Thank you very much for that Freddy, and apologies for not replying sooner. I don’t have my NC10 with me now, but I will carry out some of your tips later on tonight; I say some, as I have carried out several of those tips already myself. Once I’ve carried them out, I will post again with my results.December 10, 2008 at 12:03 pm #172809hefMember[quote1228910545=WilliamYZF]
So if we all did that we would all be back to almost out of the box boot times. Perhaps I am missing the point of the poll.
[/quote1228910545]it think that was probably kind of the point of the poll…
to assess how long the nc10 takes to boot with what amount of crap running at startup…
December 10, 2008 at 11:29 pm #172794RsaeireMemberI tried your suggestions Freddy, but it still takes 90 seconds to boot to wireless connection.
I guess less that this is going to be ever more elusive.
December 10, 2008 at 11:41 pm #172804FreddyMemberHow long does it take for you to just boot into Windows?
In my case my NC10 connects to my Wireless router almost instantly, as soon as I am booted into Windows the Wifi is up and running. Is it not the same for you?
90 seconds boot time is just way too long. Have you uninstalled McAfee antivirus (see thread in Applications)?
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I tried your suggestions Freddy, but it still takes 90 seconds to boot to wireless connection.I guess less that this is going to be ever more elusive.
[/quote1228952275]December 11, 2008 at 3:43 am #172814gmichMemberI’m having the same experience as Rsaeire. I tried all the suggestions to make for a fast(er) boot, but it takes about 60-65 seconds until I can open a program and another 20 or so before I have all functionality (including wireless).
December 11, 2008 at 10:47 am #172795RsaeireMember@Freddy: Once I get to the login prompt, it takes me 2 seconds to enter my password, another 2-3 seconds for the desktop wallpaper to appear, another 10-15 or so for the taskbar to appear and then up to 20 seconds for all the system tray icons to appear, with the wireless icon the last to appear and show connected.
The prefetch option in your post definitely works, whether it is set to 2 or 3 in regedit, as when I changed it to 2 and deleted the prefetch folder, it took almost 3 minutes to boot once I restarted; this clearly shows that prefetching the boot files is a significant improvement over not doing so.
I run CCleaner and Diskeeper in attempts to keep my system in tip-top shape, but if others are getting boot times considerably lower than 90 seconds to wireless connection, then I must be missing something.
Freddy, I won’t hound you any further for the Holy Grail, as it were, of boot times, as I appreciate the information you’ve posted thus far in attempting to bring my boot times lower.
December 11, 2008 at 11:10 am #172805FreddyMember@Rseire: Well, in my case, I have no loginprompt or pw, this is something I do not use, I just boot directly into Windows without any password.
I’m sure I can help you some more if you tell me a bit more about what programs you have installed and what programs you let startup in msconfig so if you want further help – shoot! 🙂
These are just some of the tweaks I’ve done, I cannot be really sure of what of the things I’ve done that has made my boot times this fast. And another matter, my batteri life is amazing – 7:15 (standard brightness 3bar, Wifi on etc.)But I’m not done yet, I want my boot to take less than 30s, but my batteri life holy grail (which for me was over 7 hours) is something I’ve acclompished 🙂
December 11, 2008 at 12:42 pm #172796RsaeireMember[quote1228998134=Freddy]
@Rseire: Well, in my case, I have no loginprompt or pw, this is something I do not use, I just boot directly into Windows without any password.I’m sure I can help you some more if you tell me a bit more about what programs you have installed and what programs you let startup in msconfig so if you want further help – shoot! 🙂
These are just some of the tweaks I’ve done, I cannot be really sure of what of the things I’ve done that has made my boot times this fast. And another matter, my batteri life is amazing – 7:15 (standard brightness 3bar, Wifi on etc.)But I’m not done yet, I want my boot to take less than 30s, but my batteri life holy grail (which for me was over 7 hours) is something I’ve acclompished 🙂
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I must say, I’m very impressed with what you’ve accomplished so far, well done.I’ve made various tweaks to the registry with regard to speeding things up, but one, or possibly more, of those changes may have decreased performance somewhat. Like you, I cannot recall everything I have done, but the tips were confirmed on several websites, and not just one.
Please see below for additional information regarding my setup:
Installed applications:
– Adobe Photoshop CS2
– Adobe Reader 9
– AVG Anti-Virus 8 Pro
– Bootvis
– CCleaner
– Comodo Firewall Pro 3
– Macromedia Dreamweaver 8
– Microsoft Office 2007 (Word, Excel and Outlook)Startup items:
– Samsung display manager
– Bluetooth
– AVG Anti-Virus 8 Pro
– Comodo Firewall Pro 3Partitions:
(C:) XP = 20 GB
(D:) Media = 60 GB
(E:) Storage = 65 GBI barely have any temporary Internet files, temporary files, windows uninstaller files etc and don’t have a lot of personal files on the OS partition; possibly 500 MB or less in installers and drivers. I also used nLite to slipstream SP3 into my Windows XP Professional installation and took out several features I never use such as games, system restore, recycle bin and a few others.
December 11, 2008 at 6:58 pm #172806FreddyMember@Resaire, one major difference is that you have a lot of partitions. That is not very good for performance and this is why you get these long boot times. You actually have 4 partitions including the hidden 6GB recovery partition.
I have only two partitions including the hidden 6GB one. That one I have kept because it can come in handy.
The Windows built in Firewall is actually very good, I don’t know how your Firewall software affects the boot times, but I use the WinXP built-in one.
Antivirus is one of the programs that also seriously affects boot-up times. I also use AVG, but I do not let it run at startup and the service associated with it is shut off.
All new files and downloads go into a special folder so I can “easily” scan new files and programs, I haven’t made a program yet to automatically start the service and added a shell extension to explorer so right now I do this manually.I would not want an Antivirus to be running on my computer, they affect performance, boot time and battery life too much in my opinion.
If you want to get down to the 30-35s boot times you need to change some things first according to the above.
After further tweaking I now only let the following services run (using msconfig to set these):
Windows Audio
DCOM Server Process Launcher
DHCP Client
Event Log
Network Connections
Plug and Play
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Task Scheduler
Themes (Ok, not the best performance wise, but I want it to look good as well ;))
Wireless Zero Configuration
Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
Windows Management Instrumentation
Security CenterStartup I let run:
SynTPEnh (Synaptics touchpad)
BatteryManager (Samsung specific)
DMLoader (Samsung specific)
TwoFingerScroll (3rd party app)
BattStatLauncher (3rd party)
RocketDock (3rd party)As you can see I am in no way removing everything, I have actually added a few things I really do want that make things better and easier but of course, they can affect boot times and battery time, but some apps I cannot live without 🙂
Devices:
Webcam disabled in device manager
Bluetooth also disabled
The 27C9 USB-port and the associated USB Root Hub disabledPagefile?
I would actually recommend keeping the pagefile, If you have 2GB RAM then set it to 3057-3057MB, i.e a fixed size pagefile.In BIOS:
Here I have disabled internal LAN (I only use Wifi, not cable).
Boot sequence changed so it checks the HD first.+ the fixed in registry that has to do with the boot up delay and the shut down delay. Also some fixes, not letting Win update run, no recovery etc. etc.
You already run CCleaner so this is good. You could also try out the Auslogics disk defrag which does a better job than the built in defrag utility in XP.
I also have a lot of programs installed so this is not the reason the boot times doesn’t come down to a better level.
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