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I read Samsung NC10 2gb Ram Upgrade Guide. And then at the bottom I read:
The resultsFeel free to download the Sandra memory benchmark results if you are technically minded. I couldn’t tell much from them as in most cases the results looked very similar. Notably it did report higher power usage and appeared slightly slower in some tests but I can’t help feeling the difference are negligible and the extra RAM more than makes up for any difference in observed performance!
______________________________________________________This confuses me completely! If it now consumes more power, is slower, how & WHERE is there any “improvement”? I know I take a bit of medication and yes I DO drink too much beer ( :-> ), but I am just agonizing on if I should order up the 2 GIG Ram upgrade.
Anyone here do it and see any real changes good OR bad? I am going to use it for web browsing and photo editing only along with email. But, I DO have multiple web pages open at once! I am becoming addicted to YouTube where I actually discovered this computers very existence! So, will 2 gigs of RAM help, hurt, or make no difference? Does it help in watching Video Performance at all?
I have decided what brand of RAM I want, now, is there a reason to do it…..Some of you have given your little NC10 the gift of RAM. Is it happier?Honestly – I didn’t notice a massive difference in any respect! I’d love to know what other people think too 🙂
I think it will depend a lot on how you use the machine.
the only specific difference that this upgrade will make is the number of programs/ammount of data you can load at once, just like with any other computer.
it won’t make the machine faster bcasuse you wouldn’t be making any of the components faster. the size of the ram dimm is irrelevant to performance, omly change of frequency affects performance, not change of quantity.in practice, all you will gain from adding an extra GB of ram is to allow double the number of simultaneos open tabs in firefox, or in my case, double the number of audio samples in ram at once without any of the data being paged. paging basically means to store data temporarily to hard drive, which as we all know is much slower than on physical ram chips.
you can easily monitor if there is any point in you upgrading your ammount of ram by opening task manager (via ctrl + alt + del or right click on the task bar) and viewing the performance tab which shows you the ammount of ram you are using.
i would imagine for most of you the likelyhood of you ever using more than 700mb of ram is low. 700mb of ram equates to xp pro sp3 running 30 firefox tabs and playing back a 720p MKV file.
My thoughts on the matter:
1. Upgrading the RAM to 2GB has notibly increased the multitasking performance.
2. Overall powerconsumption has actually decreased, this now gives me about 20min. more.
3. I would recommend changing the Windows swap file to 0 (default is around 1.5 – 3GB). This is unnecessary when using 2GB in XP and makes the disk work less (equals better battery life)Most people’s memory will not be working at full speed as the NC10 locks it at 533 MHz – even though many people will have upgraded to faster memory. I have 2GB of 800 MHz in my system. Basically, the new memory is being crippled by the NC10.
More memory certainly will speed up applications; however, the 2GB memory itself can be slightly slower than the 1GB (although, you probably wouldn’t notice it).
Upgrading the RAM depends on the applications you use – a good way to test it is in six months time, swap the 2 GB for the 1 GB and you will probably see the drop in operational speed. Especially, if by then Samsung realise a BIOS update to boost the frequency of the RAM
Been tinkering with one of my XP desktops with Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.4GHz
Memory: 512MB RAM. No matter what I do it barely uses a thing. Now, THIS Vista Home Premium with 2 Gigs Ram is crossing PAST 100% if I just look at it. Weird, very weird……just one of the many reasons why vista is a terrible operating system from the outset my friend.
i remember the first time i saw the vista desktop taking up 1.5 gb of ram to do nothing. i could not believe that people came to find that acceptable.[quote1228078162=ploppo]
Most people’s memory will not be working at full speed as the NC10 locks it at 533 MHz – even though many people will have upgraded to faster memory. I have 2GB of 800 MHz in my system.
[/quote1228078162]seriously?
why do they bother putting in 667 as stock then? and why is everyone so concerned with putting in 667+ if the extra expense is wasted?Correct me if I’m wrong but as far as a know my RAM is running at a speed of 667MHz. If you use 800MHz then it would clock down to 533MHz. The chipset of the mainboard of the NC10 supports 800MHz RAM but as the Intel Atom N270 1.6GHz has a FSB of 533MHz, the memory clocks to 533MHz.
The reason Samsung put 667MHz in it is because 533 is hard to come by and 667MHz is actually cheaper due to much, much larger producing volumes.
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If the FSB runs at 533MHz then surely whatever memory installed (>533MHz) will only run at 533MHz?
[/quote1228087815]correct, unless you find a way to unlink the memory controller of the mainboard from the fsb and OC the ram to its rated speed.
also, just as a slight correction, the bus speed of ddr2 533 is not 533mhz it is 266mhz. it is only called 533 because it transfers 4 bits per cycle instead of 2.
in essence you are correct though, no matter how fast the ram you put in is it will only ever run at 533 ddr untill the bus is OC’d.
the only real speed increase you could see from this mod/upgrade would be to get a sodimm with better latency than the stock one.as a point also, 533 ram isn’t rare and is generaly cheaper than it’s 667 equivalent.
e.g.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/106116
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If the FSB runs at 533MHz then surely whatever memory installed (>533MHz) will only run at 533MHz?
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Yup!I dont have extra ram installed, but i think the thing why most people do it is because 2gigs ram is better so you can delete your swap file. And vista performance is much better with 2 gigs of ram.
OK it is in! When I used the Windows Task Manager with stock 1 GIG, quit often tapped the 90% or higher doing what I do. Put in the 2 GIG Crucial Brand (made in USA!) and same thing. No change in performance seen yet but it make ME happy…..And only an hour playing. Let me go to Youtube & experiment!
While the Atom FSB runs at 533Mhz I’m not sure that has to mean the ram runs at that speed as well. Could Samsung not have made the ram faster then the CPU FSB for the sake of the integrated graphics? By that I mean 533Mhz of the ram speed would supply the CPU while the other 134Mhz supplies the integrated graphics chip. Surely the integrated graphics chip has its own bus to ram?
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