December 25, 2008 at 3:04 pm #160251fluxMember
Sorry if similar thread exists already
Well in general I’m quite happy with the NC10 just want to point out some cons
– missing a BT adapter(german version) (not so important for me)
– very slow and cheap camera (not so important for me)
– cheap SD card slot. The slot doesn’t lock the card and keeps one forth of it protruding! That means you can’t keep a card always inside! I do not believe that there is no space inside for a normal card reader and it is so just because it’s cheap. Really bad design! Another problem was that the lock pin on the card was moved to locked position at card insertion! So it was not possible to insert a card and write onto it! Crazy, huh?
But what really drives me crasy is crap software installed by default!
– At the first start of the netbook I noticed that more then 300M is allocated! So I removed all McAfee crap immediately and after reboot got around 170M! Hell, this is a netbook with limited resources why would one ship and install such a resource hungry app?
– Sound driver. Does it really has to take 23M in memory? Do I really need all that high definition surround crap in a netbook? Do not think so
Now about software from Samsung.
– Samsung Recovery Solution III. The nc10 was shipped with a 14G c drive and the rest were on a drive d (around 140G). I started this software and it said that it will create a hidden partition. OK. After it has finished it did like it said but also it reformatted c and d drives so they became equal in size! Hell, did I ask to reformat? And guess what, it has created the hidden partition at the beginning of the drive! Hell, why at the beginning? One should put most frequently accessed files at the beginning of the drive and not backups! And when I tried to make a second backup it said that ‘there is no dvd drive cannot store’! Software removed, hdd space recovered!
– Samsung Magic Doctor. Well I know that there is no antiviral software installed and the automatic updates are off! I don’t need a software to detect that! No magic here, removed.
– Samsung Update Plus! Like it was already stated on the forum the software doesn’t even work! Plus one for removal.
– Samsung Network Manager. Haven’t got any clue why to use the software! Removed. And I also had to remove the Samsung SUE NDIS driver manually because it wasn’t removed automatically.
– Magic KBD. I do not quite understand why wasn’t it possible to put the Fn-F8 functionality into the Easy Display Manager?
– BIOS update utility. Why doesn’t it offer an opportunity to store the old bios? Though it says in the process – ‘saving the old bios’ but where did it save it?
– Samsung wallpapers. No uninstall possibility. Removed manually
– Samsung docs. More then 300M on disk! Removed
– Samsung screensaver. It also needs flash_player_active_x to be installed! Both removed.
– Samsung Play Camera. Well, it shows camera pictures but I personally do not need it. Removed
So what is left
– Easy Display Manager
– Magic KBD (have to use it)
– Battery Manager
Well I have to use this software because there is no alternative.
And again – software and drivers for a netbook shall be efficient, have a small memory footprint and should not take hundreds of megabytes on a hard drive! This is not the case with the software shipped by Samsung. So I’d estimate the software quality shipped by Samsung as bad.
As a conclusion. I’m personally going to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the system when I get an external cd drive.December 25, 2008 at 4:42 pm #177282ungureanubMember
I also removed everything but Easy Display Manager. And I reformated the HDD and install Vista. It is much better than before. As antivirus I use Avira. I have it on my PC for 3 years now and I must say I had no problem. And it si FREE!!!
Battery Manager is actually useless, since Vista can do by Default the same thing!
PS: I’ve reformatted the HDD and install Vista using an USB stick.December 25, 2008 at 6:15 pm #177281WigglerMember
As a conclusion. I’m personally going to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the system when I get an external cd drive.
Why wait?!?!?! why not just do it from usb, thats how i did it… formated then installed xp pro with the dirvers, magickb and the battery thingDecember 25, 2008 at 6:22 pm #177283fluxMember
ah, right. I have plenty of SD cards laying around but no USB sticks. And of cause it is not possible to boot from an SD card! Samsung doesn’t like meDecember 25, 2008 at 6:25 pm #177279soutthpawMember
can you get a usb SD card reader and then will it boot from USB or does it have to be an actual USB flash driveDecember 25, 2008 at 8:46 pm #177274kadathMember
It was always my intention to delete all partitions and completely format the NC10’s hard drive. I use a custom version of XP Pro I made with nLite. The ISO is 185MB.
After installation, I updated the BIOS and installed the drivers, and also installed Easy Display Manager, Magic Keyboard and Battery Manager.
All other utilities I use are various third party apps.
I have a very minimal system and it performs excellently. No hiccups whatsoever when playing 720p video. I have yet to test 1080p, although I don’t really expect the Atom and integrated Intel graphics to handle it anyway.December 26, 2008 at 3:02 am #177280hufnMember
I’m running WIndows 7 and it’s just fine. I reformatted to remove the pre installed software immediately. As to the problems – I agree about the sd card reader. That and the fact that you cannot boot from it. However, software can be managed so that’s not an issue for me 🙂December 26, 2008 at 3:10 am #177284jawniMember
windows 7? gimme gimme 😀December 26, 2008 at 6:53 pm #177271snowmanMember
The keyboard – only the shift key, but it bugs the hell out of me, even now and I use the NC10 for a while (at least) virtually every day!)
MDecember 26, 2008 at 6:59 pm #177276t.chuterMember
DAMNED GLOSSY BACK!! 🙁 My sister keeps rubbing it in .. her netbook has a matte black finish like the inside of little Sammy 🙁
The shift key on the left bugs me — why not have the shift key and | and keys on the left where they’re supposed to be and have the larger shift key on the right? It’d be a perfect fit so they’re decision to do what they have done with the left shift key at the moment seems illogical.
Other than that however, it’s probably the best bit of kit I’ve owned in a LONG time!!December 26, 2008 at 7:16 pm #177272mauwongMember
I was able to perform a complete 2nd backup using the Samsung Recovery Solution III and I do find it useful. The shift key (size and position) in the US keyboard in NC10 is great (unlike the UK version). I have the white NC10 so I don’t have a problem with fingerprints.
I agree that the Samsung Magic Doctor and Samsung Update Plus are useless and I don’t see the needs for the Samsung Network Manager. I also didn’t like the potruding SD card. I wish that I can lay the screen flat (180 degree) instead of 135 degree and that the audio is louder.
However, these are minor issues for me. NC10’s long battery life, comfortable keyboard (correct position of right-shift key) and lighter weight (compared to Asus EEE 1000) more than made up for the small niggling negatives.December 26, 2008 at 7:29 pm #177278PanManMember
Compared to a lot of PCs/Laptops that I’ve seen friends buy the amount of preloaded software on Sammy is minimal and to be honest the only one I took personal offence to was MacCrappys
Admittedly Magic Doc/Update Plus/Network Manager are a bit pointless but worrying about a few mb on a 160Gb HDD is a little bit retentive IMHO
Same goes for ‘losing’ 6 gb as a restore partition. It’s not the end of the world. The initial install does give you the option of resizing the partions which way you like but a 50/50 split is better than I’ve seen on a lot of machines which don’t give you the option.
As for screen position I’ve found that sitting Sammy on the bathroom floor resting on the battery/edge of screen gives the perfect angle for watching a bit of iplayer content whilst otherwise occupied 🙂December 26, 2008 at 9:35 pm #177273mauwongMember
PanMan, I actually prefer holding Sammy like a newspaper which I can’t do given its 135 degree curvature.December 27, 2008 at 7:26 am #177277Sweet-PMember
The touch pad….toooo tiny, need lots more room to move around. Otherwise everything is super!December 27, 2008 at 12:16 pm #177270AlfiharParticipant
Touchpad: Though with the scrolling disabled it’s ok, it would be better if you could feel the edges easier.
Hard Drive: The Fujitsu hard drive (in mine, and some others) is loud.
Screws: Cheap screws + the use of loctite = stripped heads
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