November 16, 2008 at 5:31 pm #159376
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I hope I’m not the only one who doesn’t own a TV which doesn’t have a VGA connection!
This is for those of you who would like to connect their nice new netbook to their nice OLD TV, which won’t have a VGA port.
This adapter converts VGA (the port on the Samsung NC10) to S-Video – exactly what you’ll need!
If you don’t have S-Video (or the 4pin DIN connection) on your TV but have SCART instead, you can get an S-Video to SCART connector (a bit like most PS2s have I think) which usually has;
Yellow Phono style connector – for S-Video
White ” ” ” – for Audio Channnel Left (I can’t remember which is left or right)
Red ” ” ” – for Audio Channel Right
I’m assuming this cable is common so available from loads of different sources.
Personally I’m going to install a media centre program and then be able to plug it into my 32″ flat and wide CRT, plus a 3.5mm to 3.5mm jack (like headphones) cable for audio (or perhaps a 3.5mm headphone jack to 2xPHONO for Scart block connector).
I’m assuming the NC10 will be capable of displaying resolutions suitable for the TV, I am currently doing the same with an old desktop PC and that has no troubles.
CONTINUE READING BELOW – ADAPTER SUGGESTED HERE MIGHT NOT WORK!!!!!November 16, 2008 at 7:28 pm #169059
Thanks for posting that, I was wondering about that as although my NC10 and my new telly have been getting on well, the Mrs wont let me change our old CRT downstairs (apparently it still works – bah!).
I’ll be very interested in trying this out. It really is a real advantage to be able to bring iPlayer etc to your telly so easily.November 16, 2008 at 9:35 pm #169062
Well, I hope the adapter works! It looks like it should be straight forward. From my very limited tech knowledge I understand that VGA signal is in effect a combined signal, and component (S-Video) is just that – component. So it’ll be interesting to find out if it works but I’m fairly sure it will. When my netbook arrives and I am able to buy an adapter I’ll post here the results.
PS. Your tv looks hench! What is it?November 16, 2008 at 10:08 pm #169060
erm.. what does “looks hench” mean? Crap, ya hit 30 and ya cant understand a thing no more!
Its made by Grundig – it was the cheapest one is Tesco at the time. It has DVD, usb, card reader, vga, etc. Not bad for a cheapie one I thought – perhaps they all have that now?November 18, 2008 at 11:25 am #169063
Depending on screen size and price that sounds like a good TV! I have no idea if all new TV’s would have all those things you’ve mentioned or not, as above, am still a CRT person 🙁 I still argue it’s a better picture though! Excepting HD Tv’s.
Hench = “Good” / Strong / Awesome (in the true sense of awesome, not surfer meaning).November 18, 2008 at 12:35 pm #169065donkaMember
Guys, just found this thread and I’m sorry to say that adapter will most likely not work. It only works if the NC10 is capable of outputing a tv signal (PAL or NTSC) through the VGA jack and while the Intel GMA950 chipset is capable of doing this, it normally isn’t implemented on low end laptops and I doubt the Samsung will be any different. You will need something to convert the vga signal to PAL or NTSC, of which there are a few around such as this one:
I got one off Ebay for under Â£30 shipped.November 18, 2008 at 1:39 pm #169061
Thanks for that. I think I’ll stick to my VGA enabled TV and then when we upgrade the “main” TV ensure that it has such a port.November 19, 2008 at 1:13 am #169064
Donka your knowledge is awesome, thanks! Glad I didn’t place the order for the other connector and hope no one else has… I’ll put an edit on the first post just to make sure people don’t buy it in false faith…
Will definitely check out that adapter you’ve suggested, might try the other one later on as it’s only a few pounds though and see if it does or not; to be sure 🙂November 19, 2008 at 8:50 am #169066donkaMember
To be honest, until someone tries it, we won’t know for sure about the Samsung but none of the other netbooks with the same chipset do this so I doubt the NC10 will be any different otherwise it would have been a feature they could have promoted. Still, it is cheap enough to try out so if you do, please share your experiences. I initially bought the Averkey for the Advent 4211 but a simple adapter is a lot easier to carry around with you.January 2, 2009 at 11:58 am #169070snubmoggyMember
Just picking up on this thread. I am a new NC10 user and want to output from my VGA port to my old SCART socket CRT TV for films etc.
Am I correct in reading the above messages that a standard VGA to SCART cable such as this one listed wont work?
Some technical friends tell me this should work, however from this thread it sounds like I need something to convert the VGA signal as donka suggests above?
Please could someone clarify?
Many thanksJanuary 2, 2009 at 12:59 pm #169068MattJessopMember
I’m pretty sure that won’t work – that is SCART OUT to VGA IN – i.e. DVD player outputting to projector.January 2, 2009 at 5:48 pm #169067dhendry02Member
I imagine one of these might work
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grand-Hand-View-universal-converter/dp/B000ELL2RK/ref=dp_return_1?ie=UTF8&n=560798&s=electronicsJanuary 2, 2009 at 6:22 pm #169069MattJessopMember
Yup that should do it ;o)January 25, 2009 at 10:49 am #169072Jonny BlondMember
Ok people lesson 101 in domestic uk video signals. the scart connector was designed so that tv’s didn’t need different plugs on the back for all the different video & audio signals with different connections. ( that is now obsolete due to dvi, vga etc ) its just a connector it dosn’t make different signals compatible. ie my car has a connector for fuel but it runs on petrol = putting diesel into it won’t work just cause i can physically put the connector in! so with that in mind: signal types
Composite: all picture information in one signal. ( standard video use, usually a yellow phono connector )
Component: Separate red, green and blue (RGB), and separate sync ( -H-V ) signal. ( usually scart – scart, and scart to phono tails ie 4 phono conectors r,g,b & HV
VGA: separate R G B as above BUT Separate H & V Sync so 5 signals not 4. there for not directly compatible with scart. also the H & V sync settings have to be compatible with the display.
So the upshot is you cant just use a cable to connect a VGA signal to a TV ( Component or not ) But there are signal converters out there. such as the one posted above. there are also cables with built in converters. But be aware that the tv will have to support component RGB H-V- signal and you will have to play around with the graphic settings to get a working signal, which may not be possible with hardware limitations.
For more info goto: http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/vga2scart/January 25, 2009 at 2:01 pm #169071avserviceMember
Here is a little more to clarify this hopefully.
Computer monitors and Televisions are not the same beasts.
Computer monitors scan at twice or more the frequency of a Television and therefore the signals for a TV will not really work on a Monitor DIRECTLY and Vice-Versa.
HD TV is essentially a Computer Signal.
ALL HD MONITORS ARE COMPUTER MONITORS.
Most have Scan Converters built-in to allow watching an ordinary TV signal.
They also have Tuners built in to tune standard TV broadcast as well as Digital standard broadcasts and some tune HDTV High-Scan rate broadcasts directly.
So……..to watch a Computer signal on a TV you will need a Scan Converter of some kind.
Ever notice how crappy a Non-HD signal looks on most new Flat Screen TV/Computer Monitors?
Most cheap Scan Converters deliver Artifacts from the conversion process that look like crap.
This is why many still prefer a CRT TV and not a Computer Monitor for all Non-HD Signals, Me included.
Now it should be obvious that since the new Monitor/TVs are Computer Monitors then the VGA output from a computer will work directly with them.
What is not so obvious is why the Scan-Converted image from a computer will not look so good when delivered to a TV.
Well since TV’s are at least 1/2 the resolution of computer monitors any scan converted signal downward will offer much less resolution than the signal starts off with.
It can look OK for Movies and Video watched this way but for Computer Graphics most people will not be satisfied.
Good Scan Converters are very pricey and not always successful in creating a decent image, cheap ones are almost always bad but they do allow you to use the TV for computer images.
Make any Sense?
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