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December 23, 2008 at 10:49 am #160211
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Memberhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5375668.ece
This cannot not be allowed to pass. This will give the power for any thug to force entry into your home. It will end in death, yes death as someone will fight to stop a bailiff gaining entry. Plus there is the chance organised crime will get in on this, produce fake court orders then force entry.
It’s funny they want to bring this in just as people are going to struggle and start defaulting on payments.
December 23, 2008 at 12:02 pm #177098jez
MemberReminds me of this article. Our homes haven’t been castles for a long time 🙁
But this is scary. The thing that annoys me is the chance that these bailiffs can get it wrong or they get called in early before disputes have been settled through the natural processes (I’ve seen watchdog!). What if they break into the wrong house etc.
Is the current system really failing?
December 23, 2008 at 1:02 pm #177100Britman
MemberI don’t think the system is failing. It’s more something to remind us all that we are slaves and have limited rights.
Also what happens when someone has used your address for fraud, bailiff turn up kick your door down, tazzer your ass (will that be classed as reasonable restraint?). It’ll then be up to you to get your stuff back.
December 23, 2008 at 9:50 pm #177101WilliamYZF
MemberThats so wrong, especially in current imes.
My girlfriend works for a large debt collection firm. Despite the Statute of Limitations on a debt (5 years), if they phone you after that date and you acknowledge the debt the clock on that debt starts ticking again.
If you are clued up and spout the correct sections of the Statute down the phone at them they have no alternative but to write off the debt and then they bother you no more.
The Company buys bad debts off banks and building societies for peanuts and obviously make their money from getting people to pay off some, or all of that bought debt. They make millions and with the current state of the economy they are gearing up for repossessions by taking on mortgage oriented personnel.
My girlfriend works in the Quality assurance dept which monitors that the actual collectors on the phone work within the law and she also handles complaints..
December 24, 2008 at 3:35 pm #177099fatnbald
MemberAfter seeing the speed that an ISP got baliffs involved for a trivial debt of under £30 that a friend had a dispute with them over this seems to be a big errosion of civil liberties. These people are generally not nice people with no real consideration that their involvement could be a mistake.
We are yet again seeing the “innocent until proven guilty” approach which is the cornerstone of british legal system being reversed, in a few areas it is now guilty until proven otherwise.
January 19, 2009 at 4:26 pm #177102Dom01
MemberAnyone Heard of NTL? If you have you will no what a terrible company they are! I was so pleased the day I finally got through my one year contract and cancelled it to return to BT. Or so I thought. Several years later I was chased by one of these debt companies for £25 NTL claimed I owed, Maybe I did maybe I didn’t but I do know I paid every bill I was ever sent!
The people who buy up these debts are not nice people and they are not reasonable. They really are scare mongering thugs and it’s a very grey area between them and criminals! I was at the time shocked to discover such a thing was legal. Giving these thugs more rights to break into your house would be a terrible mistake! It is a dishonest trade as they are making a lot of money off someone else’s misfortune and have bought a small debt for peanuts and buy it with the intention to bully money out of the poor individual!
I paid the £25 charge and put it behind me! I have all ways be very careful to ensure bills are paid on time and have been doubly so since that nasty experience.
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