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February 14, 2009 at 8:36 pm #161142mikecartMember
Hi,
My clunky old laptop fried itself last week, so I need to replace it.
Money is pretty tight at the moment but I think I’ll be able to scrape together enough pennies to afford an NC10 netbook, but a full-on laptop is beyond my means! However, I don’t want to buy an NC10 and find that it doesn’t have enough oomph…
The main things I used the laptop for are as follows:
*Organising Photos (and Videos) using Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 (my ‘Catalog’ has about 10,000 items 60GB approx.)
*Editing Photos and Videos using Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 and Adobe Premiere Elements 4.0
*Maintaining Online Photo Galleries
*Email
*iTunes (40GB of music)
*Web Browsing
*Video calling
*Light usage of Word, Excel, Powerpoint and ProjectMost of these I have no qualms whatsoever about, but the one thing that my old laptop struggled with a bit was running the Adobe Photoshop Elements Organiser. So I am a bit worried that this will be too much for the NC10…
Anyone got any thoughts on this? If there is an easy (and cheap) migration path to something similar to the Organiser that will run I’d countenance changing over, but I like having the ability to tag, stack and categorise my photos.
Thanks,
Mike
February 15, 2009 at 12:20 am #183800TCMuffinMemberYou should be OK running all that you specify on the NC10, especially if you upgrade the RAM to 2GB.
Your biggest problem with running image editing software will be the lack of screen space 🙁
February 15, 2009 at 8:55 am #183805mikecartMemberThanks – RAM upgrade is pretty affordable, so that’s not a show stopper.
Presumably I could run with an external screen to overcome that issue? Does the NC10 video driver cover that well enough?
Mike
February 15, 2009 at 11:29 am #183797BritmanMemberhmmm TBH I don’t think it’ll have enough to edit video, that is pretty resource intense. The built in video card isn’t that great.
I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but you might be better of with a laptop, something with more oomph. Having said that all the other things would be ok but don’t expect great speed.February 15, 2009 at 12:25 pm #183798AlfiharParticipant[quote1234700678=Britman]hmmm TBH I don’t think it’ll have enough to edit video, that is pretty resource intense. The built in video card isn’t that great.[/quote1234700678]
I agree, though video editing tends to be CPU intensive rather than GPU (graphics card) intensive.February 15, 2009 at 12:59 pm #183804UK_AlMemberHi Mike
I have Photoshop 7 installed on my NC0 and it’s a surprisingly good combination. Of course I’m only editing image files (not RAW). To be honest I didn’t know you could edit video files in Elements, but agree with the other posters that this would probably stretch the Atom processor, the battery life, and your patience to boot!
I have been tempted to install CS2 on my Sammy but except for the RAW editing I can do everything I need with PS7. And, if you don’t mind a little plug for Adobe, how refreshing that a software manufacturer allows you to continue to use your original product when you purchase an upgrade. UNLIKE a certain Seattle based monster that treats its customers as cash cows for the milking. But enough of that, must mind the blood pressure.
AlFebruary 15, 2009 at 1:19 pm #183796adatay92MemberI agree you may struggle a bit with video editing. As Alfihar points out, the Atom might not be up to the job.
Strongly suggest 2gb RAM for you and an external display would definitely help with editing photos.
February 15, 2009 at 1:27 pm #183806mikecartMemberOK – that all helps a lot.
To be honest thinking about it I would likely not do much video editing on it (No Firewire), so I’d need to revive my old desktop editing PC for that. That one is still fine apart from a noisy power supply fan, so I could swap that out, pull my KVM switch out of a box in the garage, and share one screen between the two and I’d be up and away!
It’s funny that everyone seems to hone in on issues editing photos, with the old laptop it seemed to be the importing, tagging and stacking in the organiser that ground along – that said I don’t do massive amounts of editing. I’m not exactly a skilled photographer, I tend to wander round with my camera in bracketing mode and then get home and pick the best of the 3 photos it took. The editing tends to be limited to rotating, resizing for web, lightening some photos, merging photos together where one child or t’other isn’t looking at the camera …
I think I’m going to look at an NC10 in the shops this week, and make my mind up then…
Mike
February 15, 2009 at 1:29 pm #183807mikecartMember[quote1234704522=UK_Al]
To be honest I didn’t know you could edit video files in Elements
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BTW – the video editing is in Premiere Elements (not Photoshop Elements).
Mike
February 15, 2009 at 2:38 pm #183799AlfiharParticipantMy bet would be that on the NC10 or probably most laptops (and desktops), for importing/organising photos the limitation will be the hard drive. Apart from the image and video editing the NC10 should cope well with all the other tasks.
By the sound of it you should be fine as far as image editing goes, you would probably only run into problems if you had very large images, lots of layers or were applying many complex filters.
Ignore this as it was a stupid test, anyway because I was curious as to the performance of the NC10 versus my desktop, I loaded a large image I have (~120MB, ~20,000px by ~10,000px) into GIMP, my desktop loaded it in ~30 seconds, the NC10 loaded it in ~6 minutes. I then flipped the image, desktop took ~20 seconds, NC10 took ~28 minutes…
Maybe slightly more realistic I did the same with a 5-megapixel image, the difference was less than a second between the two systems with load ~2 seconds and flip ~3 seconds.
EDIT: Should have said the specs for comparison, desktop is a 2 x Intel Xeon 5150’s @ 2.66Ghz (Quad) with 10GB RAM. Coming up to three years old.
February 15, 2009 at 3:43 pm #183803Billy RubinMemberUsing Photoscape I applied the fake tilt-shift filter to the same three images on the NC10 and a Intel 8400 3.00 Gig Core 2 Duo/2 Gig RAM desktop.
Desktop – 09.40 seconds, 10.02 seconds, 10.68 seconds
NC 10 – 85.04 seconds, 88.15 seconds, 87.37 secondsFebruary 15, 2009 at 4:17 pm #183801TCMuffinMember[quote1234714564=Alfihar]
Ignore this as it was a stupid test, anyway because I was curious as to the performance of the NC10 versus my desktop, I loaded a large image I have (~120MB, ~20,000px by ~10,000px) into GIMP, my desktop loaded it in ~30 seconds, the NC10 loaded it in ~6 minutes. I then flipped the image, desktop took ~20 seconds, NC10 took ~28 minutes…
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120MB image….poor little NC10 x)February 15, 2009 at 7:58 pm #183808mikecartMemberDon’t think I have any images that big!
So that may help … 🙂
February 22, 2009 at 8:58 pm #183809mikecartMemberWell I did it this morning.
I flew back to the see my wife and kids on Thursday and spotted an NC10 in duty free for 260.68, but my flight was called before I got chance to investigate further.
So I had a quick look in Dixons Tax Free on the way back out of the UK this morning and picked up a blue one for 280 quid. I s’pose I could have waited and saved myself 20 quid in a few weeks when I next fly, but given that a) they had one in stock, b) I had time to look into this and c) the box fitted exactly to the remaining space in my cabin baggage, I decided it was fate!
Thus far I’m pleased – I’ve managed to slave up the HDD from the old fried laptop and pull back my data, and I’ve been happily chatting to wife and kids via the webcam (God I’ve missed doing that…).
I haven’t yet upgraded the RAM, but it doesn’t feel too slow at the moment which is a good sign.
I’ll order myself this tomorrow:
Please shout up if this isn’t the right one!
Next up will be installing Photoshop Elements and restoring my catalog backup. I’ll post up how this performs.
Mike
February 22, 2009 at 9:42 pm #183802TCMuffinMemberYes….that RAM is fine.
Glad to have you on board, Mike 🙂
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